Topic: wiggle rig?? (Read 21215 times)

docav · « **Reply #75 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:29:59 AM »

isnt nice to order something and it works better than they say it does. doug

clubber · « **Reply #76 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:31:49 AM »

O.K. you guys convinced me, I just ordered some. Now if I can just get healthy enough to get out and do some fishing.

Jdaddy · « **Reply #77 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:13:29 AM »

There is one thing i have a problem with, i talked to a few friends of mine in FL and TX, I sent them to look at the web site and videos but you don't show the weight and the return action of the line in them videos, it does look good and allot of action and after trying them I'm yours forever ( i love it ), but again, if you make a video showing the whole thing and explaining the action top to buttom ( maybe even a short video at the lake fishing the different styles - I'm sure you will find some people here who will help you do it 4 free or gas money,

) you will reach more people, the video does not look too serious to someone who never heard about you/your product and just happen to find it on-line.
Please don't take it the wrong way, i am trying to help and i do think that with a few changes you may look better and again reach more people.
I started my company about 4 years ago with one truck and $20,000 invested, after 4 years of pain,lol we have 18 trucks and doing very very well .
Just hang in there, you got a great product and I'm sure you will be very successful.

Dug · « **Reply #78 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:39:41 AM »

Jdaddy,

I think that is excellent feedback and I agree, a little more detailed on rigging and the entire rig in one video would help. I too am sold on the product and wish I was fishing it right now instead of at work.

Dug

StandOut · « **Reply #79 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:59:44 AM »

Quote from: Jdaddy on July 06, 2007, 09:13:29 AM

There is one thing i have a problem with, i talked to a few friends of mine in FL and TX, I sent them to look at the web site and videos but you don't show the weight and the return action of the line in them videos, it does look good and allot of action and after trying them I'm yours forever ( i love it ), but again, if you make a video showing the whole thing and explaining the action top to buttom ( maybe even a short video at the lake fishing the different styles - I'm sure you will find some people here who will help you do it 4 free or gas money, ) you will reach more people, the video does not look too serious to someone who never heard about you/your product and just happen to find it on-line.
Please don't take it the wrong way, i am trying to help and i do think that with a few changes you may look better and again reach more people.
I started my company about 4 years ago with one truck and $20,000 invested, after 4 years of pain,lol we have 18 trucks and doing very very well .
Just hang in there, you got a great product and I'm sure you will be very successful.

I never take someone offering advice the wrong way, and your 100% correct, we just have not been able to go out and get it shot,, the reason only the lures were shown was so we could Zoom in on the action of the lures, when you show the whole thing, the lures are tiny on a computer screen, I think the solution would be a pan back then zoom in

Now the problem is getting someone with me who can either run the camera, or is good enough with the rig, and me run the camera. I have my Son, but he works so much, and his family needs his off time, for us to get together somewhere with clear water. He has a swimming pool, but this rig does not work in a swimming pool, all weights slide on that slick bottom, and his pool is too deep to get a video shot without an underwater camera .

I can get it done professionally, at the late Tom Mann's tank, but that cost around $3,000.00, way outside my budget at this time, I can't even afford a Bar code yet, then I have to get a LLC set up, and I will need to order about $2,000 worth of swivels soon.

I guess I should not be going into all the details,,, sorry guys

I'm used to getting a licensing deal, and drawing royalties, not "spending money" to make money

Dug · « **Reply #80 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:05:53 AM »

Let me see what I can come up with for you with my digital camera and inflatable swimming pool. Will pm you with results by Sunday afternoon.

Dug

GotstaFish · « **Reply #81 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:08:32 AM »

Quote from: StandOut on July 06, 2007, 09:59:44 AM

I can get it done professionally, at the late Tom Mann's tank, but that cost around $3,000.00, way outside my budget at this time, I can't even afford a Bar code yet, then I have to get a LLC set up, and I will need to order about $2,000 worth of swivels soon.

I guess I should not be going into all the details,,, sorry guys

I'm used to getting a licensing deal, and drawing royalties, not "spending money" to make money

Oh man, Your into it now

Welcome to my world

gotfishyfingers · « **Reply #82 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:58:06 AM »

Quote from: StandOut on June 29, 2007, 10:37:17 PM

IT DOES NOT WORK WHEN THE FISH ARE SUSPENDED . You still need your crank baits, Spinner, and buss baits

"finally the fisherman can make his lures mimic nature at any depth, vertically, or horizontally, in 6 inches of water or 60 feet, you can fish it in one tiny spot (for as long as you like) where no other lure rig could be worked, or cover water as fast as you want, or do both on the same cast." (Web site)

$:-\$ Quick question. Your saying it does not work with suspended fish, then why does the web site say you can fish it at any depth, aswell as cover water as fast as you like? thanks

BIG PAPA · « **Reply #83 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:01:59 AM »

SHOULD WORK UP TO ABOUT A 6-7 FT. LEADER casting after that it would be very hard to cast

StandOut · « **Reply #84 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:07:09 AM »

Quote from: gotfishyfingers on July 06, 2007, 10:58:06 AM

$:-\$ Quick question. Your saying it does not work with suspended fish, then why does the web site say you can fish it at any depth, aswell as cover water as fast as you like? thanks

Show me where it says that,, I will get it removed ASAP just tell me where on my site you read that,, wait a min. maybe it's where I meant to say any "bottom Depth",, Thanks for pointing that out to me, I need to clear that up.

Jdaddy · « **Reply #85 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:10:05 AM »

Any new business will require $$$ invested and will take a year or two before you can actually "see" profit, that's how it is but if you able to hold on and keep it running it will run itself and gets easier with time.
I think the the ingredients for a successful business are good product, honesty, good customer service and some cash flow(unfortunately,lol).
You seem to have an excellent product, you sounds honest and hard worker, so far the UB customers are extremely happy and the cash flow is for you to know and us to help,

Many people with good/great ideas failed to succeed because they gave up quickly, I am not bill gates but i do know business and how to hold it together during difficult times. Lots of up and downs but in the end you will get there I'm sure.
If there is anything I may help you with please let me know, I'll be more then happy to.

Oneslowz28 · « **Reply #86 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:29:15 AM »

I wonder if BPS would let you use there tank?

Dug · « **Reply #87 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:31:28 AM »

Quote from: Dug on July 06, 2007, 10:05:53 AM

Let me see what I can come up with for you with my digital camera and inflatable swimming pool. Will pm you with results by Sunday afternoon.

Dug

Better Idea, Will rig it up in my 55 gallon fish tank and video it.

Dug

topcat · « **Reply #88 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:47:26 PM »

Slow down Roman was not built over night..and neither any business that I have knowledge of
I am reading some great Ideas....but the best one I heard came from Rodney....let the anglers sell the rig thats the best advertisement on the market....

I don't think a better Video will do all that much good accept cost a few more dollars and look a little better...look at us we are all sold on it and we didn't have a better video...performance (hands on) will out sell any video you can make of the Wiggle Rig.....

I am sold because it worked and continues to work......not because I saw some great video You can't cater to a few and go spend extra money to make a few sales if the majority are buying the rig with the present info on the rig....and they are why change?.....thats a good way to go under just starting out.....

I ran a successful business for 25 years and my best advertisement was word of mouth I never advertised but I had great customer service and that coupled with a great products will vault you to the top every time......if you keep the cost of doing business down to a minimum your bottome line will take care of it self.....

in other words don't worry about how much you made just how much it cost you to make it.... its dangerous to drink champagne on a beer budget......I haven't done anything accept gave my two boys some of the rigs and they have shared with a few friends and everyone wants one.....thats how business is built one step at a time one customer at a time.......this is strictly MO and is not posted to be taken any other way.......

Topcat

clubber · « **Reply #89 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:53:08 PM »

I tend to agree with topcat. I watched the videos when they were first posted on U.B., and thought that it looked interesting. But I didn't place an order until last night after I had read all the good reports on the wiggle rig. Now I can't wait to get them and hopefully get to try them out.

GotstaFish · « **Reply #90 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:06:55 PM »

I know from personal experiance that a good customer relationship is key to sucess. With that said I am going to add my 2 cents, the video sold me. When I seen that worm and those flukes dancin' like a cat on a hot tin roof I just had to have me some.

POST NUMBER 480,000

Dug · « **Reply #91 on:** July 06, 2007, 01:37:21 PM »

The video was the final straw that broke me too. And if I am successful at the tank with a new video it won't cost you a red cent.

Dug

OutdoorFrontiers · « **Reply #92 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:18:33 PM »

I've seen many companies fail because they didn't have the sales soon enough to stay in business and keep the doors open.

Unfortunately, it costs a lot to develop an idea, get it patented (if applicable/possible), pay for tooling costs and/or production, packaging and to build a reasonable inventory of product. Most small businesses, by the time they've covered these costs have run low on money.

So, if the sales aren't there and they can't turn over the inventory in a reasonable amount of time, they go belly up!

It doesn't matter if you're selling the best darned widget in America, if no one knows about it, they aren't going to buy it.

The old saying "Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door," is not the case any longer.

Any business that wants to grow needs to set aside plenty in an advertising/marketing budget as possible. Look at Matthews bows. I've heard from reliable sources that they sell more bows than two of their nearest competitors combined. Are Matthews bows better than the other bows on the market? They make a great bow, but there are other bows that shoot just as fast, just as accurately and just as quiet. Only Matthews is selling a ton of bows annually because they market the heck out of them and archers have bought the hype. Watch the hunting shows on television, you'll see that Matthews sponsors a lot of the shows. Open any archery or hunting magazine, again, you'll see Matthews ads far more often than other companies. Matthews has the name recognition in the archery industry.

A good product and excellent customer service will sell product for you and bring back repeat sales, but marketing/advertising will let people know about it in the first place.

While word of mouth advertising is by far the greatest, it is also the slowest form of advertising. Think about it. One guy buys Standout's wiggle rig and is pleased. How many people is he going to tell about it? A half dozen? A dozen? And sure, the guys he tells may or may not buy the rigs, and they might or might not tell more, but even after a week, how many people now know about the wiggle rig? Maybe a couple thousand? And of those couple thousand, how many are going to buy? Maybe 1/3? That's around 660 people that will buy on an optimistic guess.

Compare that to the network I'm going to air my television show on. From information I've received, the network is reaching 23 MILLION people on a regular basis. If 1% of the viewers were to buy, that's 230,000 orders. That's the power of marketing and advertising.

And again, they can't buy it if they don't know about it.

Steve

Oneslowz28 · « **Reply #93 on:** July 06, 2007, 02:46:10 PM »

All have made good points. But when your on a tight budget for adv. Then the internet is the cheapest and easiest way possible. Posting a video on youtube with the right tags can generate a few hundered thousand views in just a day. As the word spreads and people link to the video those few hundred thousand turn into millions fast. P&G, Johnson and johnson, McDonalds, Walmart, Franklin financial, and many other big corporations advertise free just by putting a video on youtube.

Just this past winter CBS pulled the show Jericho from TV. All it took was 1 Youtube video to generate over a million hand writen letters that were delivered to CBS HQ wanting the show back. Guess what? It worked. And guess what CBS now Advertises and post there shows on youtube. If these big corps with advertising budgets of milions see youtube and other websites as a good advertising soruce then the little buisness should too.

Warpath · « **Reply #94 on:** July 06, 2007, 05:17:57 PM »

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but I'll honestly try anything once. Not that $20 isn't alot of money to me, but I spent the money mainly to test the product and the technique. I've always been good about posting my thoughts on new baits. I'm sure after I've thrown Karl's VibraSpin's a little more, I'll have something to say about them. If I can spend $20, test a lure or technique, and give my opinion....well, I don't have any problem with that.

It looks great, but its going to take some time for me to learn it, and give my honest opinion about it. Remember, there isn't any magic bullet out there. There is just another tool in the shed.

BTW Karl and Rudy, the series one baits I bought are definitely made of some quality components. I've thrown them sparingly, and caught one nice keeper fish on it. But they look great, and they are solid. More to come later....

Eric

Stump bumper · « **Reply #95 on:** July 06, 2007, 05:27:25 PM »

Quote from: Oneslowz28 on July 06, 2007, 02:46:10 PM

All have made good points. But when your on a tight budget for adv. Then the internet is the cheapest and easiest way possible. Posting a video on youtube with the right tags can generate a few hundered thousand views in just a day. As the word spreads and people link to the video those few hundred thousand turn into millions fast. P&G, Johnson and johnson, McDonalds, Walmart, Franklin financial, and many other big corporations advertise free just by putting a video on youtube.

Just this past winter CBS pulled the show Jericho from TV. All it took was 1 Youtube video to generate over a million hand writen letters that were delivered to CBS HQ wanting the show back. Guess what? It worked. And guess what CBS now Advertises and post there shows on youtube. If these big corps with advertising budgets of milions see youtube and other websites as a good advertising soruce then the little buisness should too.

JERICHO IS COMING BACK

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Dug · « **Reply #96 on:** July 06, 2007, 05:32:13 PM »

Oh yeah, the fans sent 20,000 lbs of nuts to the network!!

dug

ArizonaJeff · « **Reply #97 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:59:29 PM »

Quote from: Oneslowz28 on July 06, 2007, 11:29:15 AM

I wonder if BPS would let you use there tank?

You know if one was to do a seminar at a BPS or Cabela's and "filmed the action, you could kill two birds with one stone. Get the product out and show people as well as use the opportunity to film.

Oneslowz28 · « **Reply #98 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:02:43 PM »

Quote from: azsportsman on July 06, 2007, 08:59:29 PM

You know if one was to do a seminar at a BPS or Cabela's and "filmed the action, you could kill two birds with one stone. Get the product out and show people as well as use the opportunity to film.

Thats an awsome Idea.

clubber · « **Reply #99 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:06:36 PM »

If you want to get the word out, the best advertising in the world is
tell-a-woman. Specially my wife!!

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