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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 09:33:12 AM »

I'll offer up this info that happened to me and you can use however you wish. I was fishing docks one evening with a wacky style senko. There was a little breeze, and as I made a cast up the side of a dock, the wind blew the slack of my line up over a boat cleat. I tried flipping the line back over the cleat but only managed to wedge the line under the cleat where it was stuck. So my senko is just hanging off the dock a couple of feet in the water and I ease the boat in to unsnag my line, all of a sudden I see my line moving off. I used my rod tip to unsnag my line from the dock and a 3 lber has my senko in his mouth. My buddy is having a fit that I caught a fish while hung up on the dock.

I thought how can I reproduce that same effect as being hung up on the dock. It looks a little unorthodox for bass fising but it works. Just something to think about.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 09:39:23 AM »

My buddy is having a fit that I caught a fish while hung up on the dock.

I thought how can I reproduce that same effect as being hung up on the dock.
I use that presentation quite often and have no problems reproducing it.   Grin
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2010, 02:35:32 PM »

I am definitely going to work on fishing with senkos this season. Would this be a good go bait during a bass tournament when the fish are pressured. I am going to be fishing a big tournament season and I need a good setup to catch fish when everything else fails.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »

When it gets tough, the senko excels.  I NEVER fish without one tied on.  If they don't want a Senko then its a shakey head.
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2010, 01:20:00 PM »

I am definitely going to work on fishing with senkos this season. Would this be a good go bait during a bass tournament when the fish are pressured. I am going to be fishing a big tournament season and I need a good setup to catch fish when everything else fails.
A soft stick worm like the Senko is ALWAYS worth having tied on.  Just something about a wacky-rigged senko that the bass just can't stand.  If you're fishing in thick woody or weedy cover that may snag a wacky rigged hook, then texas rig the senko and fish it weightless.  That is almost as good as the wacky style.
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2010, 09:16:02 AM »

I always have one tied on also. I fish mine on 8 lb pline fluoro 7' med-xfast, wacky style with an o-ring, owner 2/0 camo green wacky hook  and for weedless I change my hook to a gamakatsu 1/0 weedless worm hook. If I need a little wheight I pinch on a small splitshot to the hook.
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:15 PM »

Is a 4/0 gamakatsu finesses circle hook to big for a wacky style setup? I see most people use a 2/0 or even a tiny 1/0 circle hook.
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 08:32:00 PM »

another + for the o-rings with any finesse hook (I use the gamakatsu ones)- It seems to be a much better hook up ratio for me, and the baits last much longer, I mean MUCH longer... I've caught 14 fish on one senko with this rigging, the worm will actually slide up the line so they can sling it off from shaking too.

I saw the article you are talking about- the ironclad baits- seems pretty interesting I'll wait to see if it goes anywhere; the senko is definitely a versatile bait haha
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2010, 06:09:37 AM »

Is a 4/0 gamakatsu finesses circle hook to big for a wacky style setup? I see most people use a 2/0 or even a tiny 1/0 circle hook.

I often use smaller #1 and #2 octopus hooks for wacky rigging 4" and 5" senkos, and still have good hook ups, but I do prefer a 1/0  Wink

I think you can use a 4/0 hook, but I personally think it is too big and never go over a 2/0.
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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2010, 08:36:08 AM »

I notice a lot of guys are using small hooks on these soft stick baits.  I have a question?  

When using the smaller hooks I had a great deal of trouble with the fish swallowing the bait and the hook into it's gullet.  After moving up to 4/0 and 5/0 EWG hooks for texas rigging did not see any big different in the amount of strikes but certainly saw a lot less problem with the fish swallowing the larger hooks.  For wacky rigging had the same problem and changed last year to 4/0 circle hooks and rubber O rings and did not have a single gut hooked fish.

My question if for the guys using the smaller hooks.  How often are you ending up with a fish that is gut hooked?
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2010, 08:45:14 AM »

My question if for the guys using the smaller hooks.  How often are you ending up with a fish that is gut hooked?

Surprisingly Baron, I have only ever had one gut hooked bass, and that was because I put my rod down for a second right after I'd casted out and I was slow to pick up the rod and react. Once I got the bass in the boat, I could see that the hook had passed the throat, but half of the senko was sticking out. When I gently pulled the senko, the bass relaxed it's throat and the hook and bait easily came out  Sweatin Bullets Sweatin Bullets

During fishing, if I feel the bite I set the hook and 9 times out the hook is in the lip of the bass. The other 1 out of 10 time the hook is near the back of the mouth, but not gut hooked.

Needless to say I don't put my rod down with the bait in the water anymore.
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2010, 05:16:53 PM »

I fished senkos almost exclusively and fished them texas rigged and weightless, but at the pace you would fish a crank or jerk bait.   I didn't know this was a slow presentation lure and would reel, reel, pause 2, repeat and get strikes everywhere from initial entry to water all the way to 6 feet from shore.
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That's my favorite way to fish the 4" Senko (weightless)...I cast out, let it sink then give a good jerk, let it sink, reel, jerk, sink etc...and I have found that I get a lot more bites this way - especially around rocks.  For whatever reason, black is the color they love the best in the river I fish, followed by black with blue flakes.
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2010, 06:38:51 PM »

What type of orings or where do you get them for the wacky rig? I dont see them in any bass pro website or catalog.
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2010, 06:50:57 PM »

What type of orings or where do you get them for the wacky rig? I dont see them in any bass pro website or catalog.

I got my last set from BTD and this tool....

http://www.basstackledepot.com/wackyringer.aspx

http://www.basstackledepot.com/wackyringerorings.aspx
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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2010, 08:26:25 PM »

What type of orings or where do you get them for the wacky rig? I dont see them in any bass pro website or catalog.

Wacky tool

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_95042____SearchResults

o rings

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_95043____SearchResults
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2010, 09:45:15 PM »

been fishing them on bigger shkey heads, same with 10" worms
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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2010, 11:13:41 PM »

You can get the same o ring tool from bps or from cabela's; I originally ordered it along with a big order from cabela's and then saw it while i was in bps a couple weeks later... before I got that I used to just use little clear zip ties, they are pretty cheap at walmart- you can find them in the hardware section, they work just as good only takes a couple more seconds to attach each one then clip the tail end of the tie.
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2010, 12:41:34 AM »

My 2 favorite ways are to t rig em , no weight and wacky , especailly the 4 inch size. A guy I spend a lot of boat time wioth likes to use different mil hooks and split shot to alter the fall rate. Thats too much like work for me, he does however slay them, he has that presentation down pat.
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2010, 02:17:26 AM »

 I checked it out and found the wacky tool ill pick one up soon. Thanks guys!!
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2010, 11:27:28 AM »

I notice a lot of guys are using small hooks on these soft stick baits.  I have a question?  

When using the smaller hooks I had a great deal of trouble with the fish swallowing the bait and the hook into it's gullet.  After moving up to 4/0 and 5/0 EWG hooks for texas rigging did not see any big different in the amount of strikes but certainly saw a lot less problem with the fish swallowing the larger hooks.  For wacky rigging had the same problem and changed last year to 4/0 circle hooks and rubber O rings and did not have a single gut hooked fish.

My question if for the guys using the smaller hooks.  How often are you ending up with a fish that is gut hooked?
 
I have never gut hooked a fish. I use o-ring with 2/0 Owner wacky hook. I also set the hook at the first tap if this makes a differance.
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