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What brand makes what store brand reels?
« on: January 14, 2010, 09:54:09 PM »

I know that for Gander reels are made by Pflueger and for Cabelas= Diawa but who makes Bass Pro? I just bought a Pro Qualifier bait casting reel and I would believe that Quantum makes it?

True or False?

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Anyone have the Pro Qualifier bait casting reel? Looks pretty sweet and it felt smooth in the store...
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 10:46:32 AM »

Internal workings of a BPS reel are identical to Pflueger, not saying that they are Pflueger as I can't confirm that. I must also add that I haven't been inside their new stuff.
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 10:58:48 AM »

Actually for many it's half and half. GM spinning reels are made by Pflueger. GM baitcast reels are made by Pinicle. Many BPS reels are now made by Abu.

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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 08:12:43 PM »

I WAS IN BASSPRO FRIDAY AND THE GUY SHOWING ME THE REELS TOLD ME THAT PFLUEGER AND BASS PRO REELS ARE MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY. I THINK HE SAID (USA REELS) OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOT FOR SURE ON THAT. BUT HE DID TELL ME THAT THE SAME COMPANY MADE BOTH. HE TOLD ME THAT PFLUEGER AND BASS PRO WILL HAVE THEIR OWN SPECS ON THEIR REELS BUT THEIR MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT THIS IS WHAT THE MAN AT BASSPRO TOLD ME. BECAUSE I WAS WANTING TO KNOW THE SAME THING, WHO MADE BASSPRO REELS.
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 08:16:31 PM »

I think Shimano makes a few of them also...Steve
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 10:57:12 PM »

Hey : Here is the inside scoop on who is making BPS reels, actual pics from inside the secret factory in Bismark North Dakota
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 01:47:55 PM »

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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 02:55:54 AM »

Hey : Here is the inside scoop on who is making BPS reels, actual pics from inside the secret factory in Bismark North Dakota

BK/muddy, I would have thought you would say that was the Shimano factory. I know your favorite reel maker is Abu Garcia, and I believe that Abu makes most BPS reels. Watch out who you throw rocks at, they might bounce back at ya. lo lo

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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 06:26:04 AM »

HeyKevin: When the Extreme was being made with the dual brake, could that have come from pure fishing ( PFLUEGER/PIINNACLE OEM) also? Cart 7 made a hybird reel, by joing an Old Johnny Morris and a Patriarch, to get a 5.3:1 ratio

I like BPS reels.I learned to Bait Cast on Extremes
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 12:33:32 PM »

Bass pro said that all reels are made by Pflueger and no other. So id say what they say is true just email customrer support they should tell you they did me. i just purchased one of Ganders 12 ball bearing tournament baitcasters and the reel bag and paper work was from pinnacle. Hope this helps!!
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2010, 01:05:43 PM »

Bass pro said that all reels are made by Pflueger and no other. So id say what they say is true just email customrer support they should tell you they did me. i just purchased one of Ganders 12 ball bearing tournament baitcasters and the reel bag and paper work was from pinnacle. Hope this helps!!

That just really depends on who you talk to there. Ask the next guy that comes on the phone and he will tell you they come from Abu, then the next guy will say they come from somewhere else. I talk to the parts and service dept all the time as I service a lot of BPS reels. The confusion stems from the fact that they use both companies as GM uses Pinnacle and Shakespeare. The casting reels are Pinnacle the spinning reels are Shakespeare On top of that Abu, pfueger and shakespeare are all pure fishing owned and affiliated which is why so many of their reels are nearly identical. Just saw a post the other day from a rep of Pinnacle/ silstar He was asked a similar question and all he would say was that yes, they make reels for name brand outlets but can't say which models or what stores due to contract obligations. So, unless you see the warranty card and it says to send it to a certain place, then it's anyones guess and even the customer service folks will be wrong. The cabeelas and gm guys have told me wrong before when I was trying to track down parts. It can also change from year to year so the factory that was building it one year might be totally different the next.

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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2010, 01:52:54 PM »

Bass pro said that all reels are made by Pflueger and no other. So id say what they say is true just email customrer support they should tell you they did me. i just purchased one of Ganders 12 ball bearing tournament baitcasters and the reel bag and paper work was from pinnacle. Hope this helps!!

  Hey Gilrod, I was affirming what Pro Reel said,  , HINT LOOK ABOVE YOUR LAST POST
he thinks the Baitcasters are made by ABU
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 02:36:44 PM »

It depends on the level, I bought cheap BPS $25 6'6" rod/spinning reel combo and they are shakespeare gear. Right on the side of the rod itself has the shakespeare name. I got this setup to replace an old reel setup that broke, I only use it for panfish.
I believe the mid range is Quantum and high end is Pflueger.
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 06:20:58 PM »

That makes no &^@#$*@#$ING SENSE at all



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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 10:50:28 PM »

I know I have a BPS MegaCast baitcaster and it is made by Shakespear...
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 01:09:11 PM »

Also looking closely at my BPS/Shakespeare and Pflueger reel, they have some of the same icons, which means made in the same factory... so it would be interesting to see which lasts longer... I will take a pic to show what I mean when I get a chance
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 03:42:11 PM »

One thing that I know for sure about all this is that when you take one apart and compare it to the closest identical reel from the manufacturer that made it, Abu or Pflueger/Shakespear or Silstar/Pinacle or Daiwa, the 4 that I know for sure makes various stor ebrands, most of the internal parts will be identical and interchange with each other, assuming that it's a near copy of a name brand, which most are at least similar on the outside. The biggest difference will be cosmetic exterior parts and finish. So you can expect pretty much the same performance as the related model. Some of the reels I have seen seem to be a combination of parts from 2 or 3 different name brand reels combined to build the store brand using a base frame and store brand side plates. This is what can cause problems for the customer that buys these reels. If you get one from BPS, they will have parts available for it for a reasonable time period after the reel is discontinued or upgraded to a newer model. Cabelas, Gander MT. and other stores that sell store brand reels don't have their own parts dept. When you buy a store brand from them, your warranty card will tell you who built it that year. If it needs service in the warranty period or while it's still in production, you can send it to the brand listed on the card or order parts from them. If the reel is out of production and if it was not an exact copy of one of their reels, ie a combination of reels, then it will be very difficult to get parts. If you get a chance to talk to someone that remembers the reel, they may remember what parts you need and be able to help you. I have often ran into a brick wall so to speak on some older store brands, 5 to 6 years old, and the company that built it told me they don't keep records of part numbers or any stock of parts for those reels after they quit building them for said store. It's not at all pleasant for me or other reel mechanics to have to tell a customer that there just is not any parts available for a $150 to $200reel thats only a few years old or that there may be parts but no one there knows what parts would fit it.

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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2010, 10:14:59 PM »

at one time all bass pro shops rod and reel where made by shakespear.
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2010, 09:09:42 PM »

While I don't have alot of professional  experience with rods/reels, I do know that in other forms of retailing, the seller will "spec out" a product (what they want) and put it out for bid to different manufacturers.  The contract going to who can make it/sell it to the retailer for less.  So for example a Kobalt tool from Lowe's might be made one year by one company and another year by a different company....same for  Troy bilt tractors, Rigid tools, etc etc

On the other side I remember working at K-mart 30 years ago and getting imported boxes in from a manufacturer with different brand names....Shakespeare, Berkley, Shimano etc, all on the same rod.  In this case the manufacturer had sold their name to the retailer for use on a product that wasn't really made by them...these were usually really low end products.

Another little trick thats prevalent is for a manufacturer to change one small thing on a item and then sell it to a retailer as an "exclusive"....usually the change is minor  but it allows them to change the model number very slightly....the retailer then doesn't have to worry about comparison pricing because its "different" from what anyone else is selling.

In most cases I doubt the employees really know who makes a particular store brand rod or reel...they're just going by what someone else has told them...FYI I was in a Gander Mtn. yesterday and asked who made their Guide Series reels and was told Shakespeare.
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Re: What brand makes what store brand reels?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2010, 04:55:51 PM »

One thing that I know for sure about all this is that when you take one apart and compare it to the closest identical reel from the manufacturer that made it, Abu or Pflueger/Shakespear or Silstar/Pinacle or Daiwa, the 4 that I know for sure makes various stor ebrands, most of the internal parts will be identical and interchange with each other, assuming that it's a near copy of a name brand, which most are at least similar on the outside. The biggest difference will be cosmetic exterior parts and finish. So you can expect pretty much the same performance as the related model. Some of the reels I have seen seem to be a combination of parts from 2 or 3 different name brand reels combined to build the store brand using a base frame and store brand side plates. This is what can cause problems for the customer that buys these reels. If you get one from BPS, they will have parts available for it for a reasonable time period after the reel is discontinued or upgraded to a newer model. Cabelas, Gander MT. and other stores that sell store brand reels don't have their own parts dept. When you buy a store brand from them, your warranty card will tell you who built it that year. If it needs service in the warranty period or while it's still in production, you can send it to the brand listed on the card or order parts from them. If the reel is out of production and if it was not an exact copy of one of their reels, ie a combination of reels, then it will be very difficult to get parts. If you get a chance to talk to someone that remembers the reel, they may remember what parts you need and be able to help you. I have often ran into a brick wall so to speak on some older store brands, 5 to 6 years old, and the company that built it told me they don't keep records of part numbers or any stock of parts for those reels after they quit building them for said store. It's not at all pleasant for me or other reel mechanics to have to tell a customer that there just is not any parts available for a $150 to $200reel thats only a few years old or that there may be parts but no one there knows what parts would fit it.

This is quite possibly the best reason to purchase a name brand reel as opposed to a store brand reel.
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