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Hello all I am going to give you my thoughts and hope to hear yours..
 
Red Hooks Yes they are just gold hooks painted and seem with crank baits to have great value, I fish it tons but I do think in shallow water (or a bit deeper if clear) Use on front only for the flash, They do seem to go for the closest red hook so may not need on back. If gold starts to show through it can actually help in dirty or low light conditions.
 
Argument on Strength. I have had 0 fail on crank baits. PITCHING they due tend to straighten out easy on snags and I like that due to the cost of tungsten weights, but I have not had more bites because of it.  FLIPPEN   Nope not a fan. here in florida we get some pigs in heavy mats and go strong and heavy!!! Heck with a 1 1/2 oz weight it falls too fast to see size or flash.   CAROLINA RIGS yes! big fan 3 reasons #1 As you know and I will address later Red is the 1st color lost in light spectrum.  #2 they are a slight bit weaker so on snags may come out easier and on the sweeping hook set there isn't enough pressure to straighten hook.  #3 Thinner lighter hook is a good thing due to faster penetration  and also less weight keeping bait floating off bottom and in strike zone.
    COLOR SPECTRUM ARGUMENT yes red is the 1st color to become neutral as bait sinks (depth depends on clarity)     THE BEST PART!! think about it if a bass cannot see red sooner than all those HIGH $ great replica painted baits that look more natural will not appear to have hooks flopping around behind them there for look more real and everyone knows match the hatch! and when Carolina rigging they will just see the bait, no hook. Sounds great to me! 
RED LINE well if on top or shallow I dont see the point? DEEP? Sounds to me like it would be unseen? I have not tried red line but I just finished my research on this stuff and talking to biologists. So I will be starting of some practice with red line on deep applications or stained water.   

CORK HANDLE TIP..  like new fast cheap and easy. Go to wal-Mart (near the paint section they have a bag of mixed coarseness STEEL WOOL the heavy grades  take off easiest and give best grip and are good fur super dirty.  The fine grade takes a tiny bit more work but a super smooth finish.  This will look new in just a cpl seconds.    try it out I would love to hear your thoughts and trials... 
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Re: Red hooks and line? my thoughts and your plus SUPER cork cleaning tip.
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:04:50 PM »

My Big Bass 14lbs 11oz Had a red hook on a frog in Hydrilla.. strength an issue? Just fight the fish right!
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Re: Red hooks and line? my thoughts and your plus SUPER cork cleaning tip.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 09:47:28 PM »

My biggest bass( 10.2#) came flipping hydrilla with a red Gamma superline hook. I had to pull 15 pounds of hydrilla along with fish ;D......The red hook was not an issue with me.
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Re: Red hooks and line? my thoughts and your plus SUPER cork cleaning tip.
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 07:44:40 AM »

I buy red , black or bronze hooks, what ever is on sale because
RED anything, is all BS markting,. It has neither a deterrent affect or a positive effect on line, hooks or lures.Depends on what the company is trying to sell If its hooks, the fish cant see the red, so they dont know the bait has hooks, now if the bait is red, then the fish can see it and attack it, with the same vision that prevents them from seeing red hooks, And none of us or the fish can see that red  ~xyz line anyways!!!!
Who knows if they can see hooks and or line and if it makes a difference in the long run anyways?

  The pliable qualities of the hooks have nothing to do with color it has to do with mils, the measurement of the wire the hooks are forged out of. Aberdeen hooks being made from a smaller diameter wire tend to pull out faster than a sprot hook, which is made from a higher and thicker mil rated wire to begin with, Strength has nothing to do with color, it is the metal wire the hook is made from

 Match the hatch is for trout fishing, a lot of times it means nothing while bass fishing. Why will a bass hit a Carolina rigged space monkey, with reckless abandon when it looks like nothing i ever saw swimming around. The same can be said for a lot of creature and reaction baits. They look like nothing that swims. How come I have caught LMB on lakes with Bluegill colored baits where shad is the primary forage. Why do crawfish baits work in bodies of water where there are no craw fish, why was the purple worm so successful. Matching the hatch is highly overrated in the world of bass fishing if you ask me.Please post a picture of anything a fish eats that loks like a buzz bait  :o
 So you know i am qualified to make this statement my biggest bass is 7lbs8Ounces, ( I guess that makes me 1/2 as qualified as you) caught it with live bait,mustad brown 1 ought hook and 8 lb stren mono in green  ~roflmao ~roflmao ~roflmao
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Re: Red hooks and line? my thoughts and your plus SUPER cork cleaning tip.
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 08:18:43 AM »

thats it...what differance does it make anyway...in the long run.?? I think not too much...If I go today and catch fish on green line, red line, or blue line...will mostly be because I am at the right place at the right time with the right bait and presentations....IMO....likewise with fish attractants, yes they mask our human scent...and on a given day one using a scent vs one not using may just out fish the other one...but on average...IMO ..just doesnt make a significant difference..On more that one occassion I have outfished my partner and he was using the attractant...so...who knows.. 
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