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Big Bass modifications
« on: March 17, 2010, 12:31:03 AM »

I spent much of last spring at a local 30 acre public fishing lake. It had steep banks, stained to muddy water clarity, lots of flooded trees, lots of laydowns, and lots of brush. Most of the pressure the lake recieved was from crappie and catfishermen. The jungle of laydowns and brush made it very hard for anyone who didn't know what they were doing to fish for bass.
For all of march and the first week of April, i averaged about one fish under 15 inches a day. What kept me going was a 6lber i had caught last fall and another bass angler who was catching two to three a day with many in the 2 to 5 lb range. I talked to him every time i ran into him and i eyed him from across the lake to see what he was doing differently. He was flipping a 4" smoke tube with a red fleck. Most of my fish came on a weightless green pumpkin senko, but i switched to a tube many times throughout that month with no success. When April came around and the fish came up to spawn, things changed for both of us. My average went from 1 fish to 7 fish with a few 18-20 inchers thrown into the mix. I caught lots of fish on my senko, but the tube turned on as well and i even threw a brush hog into the mix. He was averaging 15 fish a day with two to three 18-22" fish every day, basically flipping the same tube and occasionally a brush hog.
I could not figure out why he was consistently doubling my best efforts. I tried switching times of day. I tried to get there before he did. I tried pretty much everything. Then one day, he told me that he always chose the side of the lake opposite the sun so that his shadow wouldn't scare off the fish. IDT that that is why he did better than me, but i realized that it was probably the combination of a bunch of little details that he paid attention to that made a big difference. What are some of the modifications to your baits and presentations that you guys make that help you to catch bigger fish?
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Re: Big Bass modifications
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 05:48:21 AM »

unless you are sight fishing i dont think a shadow will come into play. if you are sight fishing and your shadow is on the bed your to close any way. the factors i would look at are line size and type. he may be using fluorocarbon vs you using mono for example. rod type also comes into play. he may be using a rod with more sensitivity so he may feel lighter bites. water depth comes to mind. there are a ton of factors that come into play. to limit it to just one thing is kind of impossible without knowing every single factor of both anglers. doug 

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Re: Big Bass modifications
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 10:14:55 AM »

I to try to avoid having the sun towards my back but doubt that was what increased his catches over you. That "spot" could be great holding grounds that just so happens to be fishable from the bank. Obviously fishing from the bank limits the number of good spots to fish. He found a good spot and sounds like he is trying to keep it all to himself (don't blame him for that  :) ). See if there is a pattern that can be used in other portions of the lake. Even if they aren't biting it throw a jig or texas rig so you can get an idea of the structure your fishing then find the lure they want. Last tip: keep asking the guy questions because it sounds like he knows the lake pretty well.
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Re: Big Bass modifications
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 11:45:08 AM »

I'm guessing you've had an opportunity to fish some of 'his' same spots...something as simple as weight size...(with all that cover, I'm assuming he's fishing it T-rigged?)...

and to upsize my bass, I've found tube size, in particular tube diameter/thickness plays a role for me.

I like the Strike King KVD tubes 3.5 inches in size...now, I don't think Strike King has 'the greatest' quality control, as I often find various 'thicknesses' of tubes in the same bag...but those thicker, fatter tubes seem to 'get' bigger bites....

the 'other' thing I do?  I rub a bit of craw/salt/glitter smelly jelly on the tube OR I put a few drops of stickly liquid inside the tube...


and then, I'd do two other things:
1.  I would fish with the sun in my face...don't fight it'; don't overlook it...
2.  I'd walk very softly on the shoreline...and fish slower, longer before moving on...

shadows/vibrations that alert fish to your presence may very well make a serious difference...and there are some folks out there who'll suggest that the bigger bass are a lot more sensitive to 'out of the ordinary' cues in their environment...

One last idea:
Don't hesitate to stop fishing and spend some time watching exactly what he does...you'll be able to see rigging, line size...how slow/fast he works...how softly he presents...then, don't try those things on 'his' spots, try them at other similar places...

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Re: Big Bass modifications
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 02:53:44 PM »

Its a smaller lake so i get a chance to fish everywhere. I think i might not be fishing deep enough. Thanks guys.
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