Zillion TWS vs Zillion TWS SV
Need help guys!
Which spool should I worry about for what. Say I wanted to convert over 6 reels
(2) crankbaits 5:1
(2) jerkbaits 6:1
(1) top water 7:1
(1) spinner, buzz, Chatterbaits 7:1
Which spool for which? I thought SV was for Finesse apps only but now I'm learning it depends on which reel its on for finesse???
I'm leaning to just going all SV and call it a day. This is the point where you start over thinking and second guessing yourself... bass fishing. Lol
Appreciate any and all feedback.
I would go all SV since there is nothing you cant do with that spool. Plus, the frame and build is more user friendly being better to palm. Me personally, I dont care for the TWS system, its more hype than anything. I would just get a bunch of SV103's, its basically the same as the OG Zillions.
TWS doesn't make or break the purchase for me. Have a couple Tats which I didn't like at first but they grew on me lol mainly didn't like the body/palm ability. But that was also in conjunction with the omen gen1 reel seats. Watched a video of a guy casting a weightless trick worm with the zillion SV 40 yards without thumbing the spool and no back lash, in my head I was like SOLD!!! Lol
The SS sv103?? Confused lol
Also looks like the zillion SV is the Tatula CT frame?? Am I right or wrong?
Quote from: Dam0007 on March 28, 2016, 07:49:00 AM
The SS sv103?? Confused lol
Also looks like the zillion SV is the Tatula CT frame?? Am I right or wrong?
The SV103 is the old school zillion frame with an SV spool minus the twing system.
And that sounds like a win^
Oh so the SV 103 not the SS SV103. The non SS has the oval guide that's what you guys are talking about? If I just stick with zillion vs/ zillion SV I wouldn't be as confused as a already am lmaooooo
Actually the oval guide one is off the table. Not available in gear ratios I want. The SS is and it's right around same price as Zillion
Better off getting the Zillion SV TWS than the SS SV
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on March 28, 2016, 09:13:26 AM
Better off getting the Zillion SV TWS than the SS SV
Sold! But honestly SV across the board? Would I be better non SV for any of the listed applications?
Quote from: Dam0007 on March 28, 2016, 09:20:36 AM
Sold! But honestly SV across the board? Would I be better non SV for any of the listed applications?
No. Trust me, there aint nothin you cant do with them. If I could get SV spools for my TD Zillions they would all have them. lo
Sv spool is the best that Daiwa makes. No sense in settling for second place when you can win outright.
Quote from: Down4ttown on March 28, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
Sv spool is the best that Daiwa makes. No sense in settling for second place when you can win outright.
That's why I don't understand the pricing is the same for both zillions
Learned today that the Zillion TW is being phased out by the SV model. Doesn't make sense seeing as how tat and tat type R, tat CT and Tat CT type R are all still being made providing options.
Zillion SV has a smaller than normal TWS. Smaller than its Non SV counterpart.
And it's roughly 40 yards of line difference between the 2.
I'm thinking for my self grab 2 regulars in 5:1 and SV in the rest.
Also Steez is coming out soon with the TWS.
In my opinion the Zillion TWS became a flop because it was based off the Tatula. So where was the greatness of the Zillion? To me it was lost in that model, much like Shimano had with the Curado G series. What I dont understand is why they redesigned the Zillion, but then also let the Tatula share the same frame AGAIN!? To me it almost defeats the purpose to buy the Zillion. In reality, the main difference is the SV spool, other than that they are dang near identical. The Steez going TWS is interesting, and looks good, but I still dont get the TWS hype, and really see not a big enough advantage the extra moving parts. I see what they are trying to do, but I still just dont get why they did it the way they did. Smart thing was coming back with the OG Zillion style in the SV103.
What do I know I've been a Shimano guy for over a decade lol just started getting into Daiwas stuff lol you telling me a 103 is a OG zillion is like saying hey the alphabet has a 'T' in it. Lmaooo now if you were to say the Chronarch E is a OG curado with white paint I'd know exactly what you mean.
Cabelas has the Zillion TW on clearance for $250 and I have gift cards. Is there any difference between this and the JDM version. I'm talking strictly the TW not the SV
The JDM has magseal (not a fan) and better bearings. I would say you are better off with the USDM version. You can always get a set of Hedgehog Studio bearings later on.
Quote from: Dam0007 on March 29, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
Cabelas has the Zillion TW on clearance for $250 and I have gift cards. Is there any difference between this and the JDM version. I'm talking strictly the TW not the SV
Look at overstock 232....But you can't beat gift cards....
I just recently got my first Daiwa. Took LMG's advice. Trust me Daiwa's naming convention for stuff is absurdly ridiculously stooopid. Took me forever to figure out what spools actually fit on my reel. :-(
All I can say is good luck! lol
American Legacy has em for $180 lol didn't pull trigger yet.
Quote from: Dam0007 on March 30, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
American Legacy has em for $180 lol didn't pull trigger yet.
I read that they do 20 shipping unless over 200...Pays to buy in multiples. ;D
Quote from: MCS on March 30, 2016, 12:57:30 PM
I read that they do 20 shipping unless over 200...Pays to buy in multiples. ;D
free shipping from their eBay store :/
MCS holy hell youre on this site too!? How have you been bro? Everyone's leaving BR??
http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/daiwa/low-profile-casting-reels/reg0000196.html
Technique specific rods... Now reels Carolina Rig reel lmao obviously a ton of sarcasm. If I end up doing a full Shimano > Daiwa conversion I'm definitely getting this as a C Rig is one my favorite techniques. Plus this thing looks cool!
Its got clicking drag! ::)
Clicking drag star on all the other ones.
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 01, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
Clicking drag star on all the other ones.
Yeah, I think this one actually clicks as line is released. Now I am not too sure. lo Interesting thing for bass fishing.
For Trade for 12 Zillions ~roflmao
(2) Chronarch 201E5
(2) Chronarch 201E6
(1) Chronarch 201E7
(2) Curado 201G7
(1) Citica 201G6
(1) Metanium XG JDM
(2) Scorpion 1001XT
(1) Citica 201I HG
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on April 01, 2016, 01:07:19 PM
Yeah, I think this one actually clicks as line is released. Now I am not too sure. lo Interesting thing for bass fishing.
Honestly that would be awesome on a BFS Reel. Application like drop shot with 6-7lb line or less even, the audible indicator would be great actually. That's really only reason I only have 2 spinning outfits.
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 01, 2016, 01:07:48 PM
For Trade for 12 Zillions ~roflmao
(2) Chronarch 201E5
(2) Chronarch 201E6
(1) Chronarch 201E7
(2) Curado 201G7
(1) Citica 201G6
(1) Metanium XG JDM
(2) Scorpion 1001XT
(1) Citica 201I HG
ALL LEFTIES :'(
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on April 01, 2016, 01:45:54 PM
Tell me about it! :bang
That list up there is Rick's wet dream. "OMG They're ALL LEFTY!" ~roflmao
Quote from: MCS on April 01, 2016, 02:23:58 PM
That list up there is Rick's wet dream. "OMG They're ALL LEFTY!" ~roflmao
Bwahahahaha
You guys think if I sold em all I'd have enough cash for 12 JDM zillions a combination of TW, SV and HLC?
(2) Chronarch 201E5 > (2) Zillion TW 5:1
(2) Chronarch 201E6 > (2) Zillion TW SV 6:1
(1) Chronarch 201E7 > (1) Zillion TW 7:1
(2) Curado 201G7 > (1) Zillion SV 8:1 (1) Zillion HLC
(1) Citica 201G6 > (1) Zillion TW 7:1 (should be a 7 anyways)
(1) Metanium XG JDM > (1) Steez TW SV when it comes out (Jig Heaven)
(2) Scorpion 1001XT > (2) Zillion SV 7:1
(1) Citica 201I HG > (1) Zillion SV 7:1
Sounds about right lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 01, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
You guys think if I sold em all I'd have enough cash for 12 JDM zillions a combination of TW, SV and HLC?
Why are you jumping ship on shimano man? ??? :-\
I'd keep the Met and the scorpions....I don't think you'll find a better hardbait reel.
Anyway I dunno I know if they are in excellent condition you can fetch about 180 for the scorps that will cover your american legacy zillions there.....and the met should get you around 275 right they go for 3 ish new....The 4 reels that will kill you is the citicas and the curado Gs I see citica G's doing like 100.....In the end I think you'd come away with 8-10 reels.... That is just an honest guess based on not all the shimano are zillion price wise, it's impossible.
Definitely not gonna equal out.
Daiwa Shimano etc should offer a Tournament Angler finance card. Like replace 30 reels at once and no interest for 24months lol you can re do all the appliances in your house this way. A carpenter can upgrade his tools same way. Not saying it's the smartest way to upgrade but I'd be all over it.... Lol
Idk just want to switch it up. At minimum switch out all the Chronarchs. Then all my moving baits will be Dobyns / Daiwa, leaving all my bottom contact 13 / Shimano. Just really digging the Daiwa stuff lately.
What I'm prob gonna do is just start getting 2 at a time and post what I'm replacing for sale then when that sells get the next 2 so forth and so on.
That sounds like a legit plan....have you had an alphas sv or an ss sv? I think the alphas sv would be a pound for pound replacement or upgrade on the scorpions. You probably get almost what you gonna pay for the new reel.....
My first Daiwa was a AirD. My next 2 were Tatulas my fiancé bought me for my birthday. Huge surprise! Then I grabbed a Tatula R. Sold the AirD to my buddy already. The 3 Tats didn't see the water for almost a full season due to them + 13 reel seat. As I got more Dobyns I started using them again. So now that I'm using em more and more they've grown on me a lot. So in a nutshell these are the only ones I've owned.
You will love the Zillions then. Sell a few, buy a few sounds like a good plan.
Side note, what's the equal to the Stradic from Daiwa. I just checked out the Procyon, Fuego and Ballistic. Ballistic is REEL nice lmao real nice get it reel nice... lol
Was at Cabelas with a bunch of gift cards. Was gonna buy a CT didn't have it CT type R didn't have said screw it maybe American zillion didn't have it... Citica didn't have it Curado 70 didn't have it.... Decided screw if get the Ballistic to try out only 4000 size... They're inventory is crap since BPS opened in CT.
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 02, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
Side note, what's the equal to the Stradic from Daiwa. I just checked out the Procyon, Fuego and Ballistic. Ballistic is REEL nice lmao real nice get it reel nice... lol
Was at Cabelas with a bunch of gift cards. Was gonna buy a CT didn't have it CT type R didn't have said screw it maybe American zillion didn't have it... Citica didn't have it Curado 70 didn't have it.... Decided screw if get the Ballistic to try out only 4000 size... They're inventory is crap since BPS opened in CT.
Your gonna need to purchase from TW more than likely. Most of these "chain" stores dont carry those reels for some reason.
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 02, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
Side note, what's the equal to the Stradic from Daiwa. I just checked out the Procyon, Fuego and Ballistic. Ballistic is REEL nice lmao real nice get it reel nice... lol
Was at Cabelas with a bunch of gift cards. Was gonna buy a CT didn't have it CT type R didn't have said screw it maybe American zillion didn't have it... Citica didn't have it Curado 70 didn't have it.... Decided screw if get the Ballistic to try out only 4000 size... They're inventory is crap since BPS opened in CT.
The old fuego and advantages were the shit....But the ballistics are sweeeeet spinning reels. Pics we need Pics ;PHO) Nice pick up enjoy it.
Daiwa just got this reveros kind budget spinner but it looks pretty good too. I always like diawa spinning reels better than shimano.
Quote from: MCS on April 02, 2016, 05:07:12 PM
The old fuego and advantages were the shit....But the ballistics are sweeeeet spinning reels. Pics we need Pics ;PHO) Nice pick up enjoy it.
Daiwa just got this reveros kind budget spinner but it looks pretty good too. I always like diawa spinning reels better than shimano.
I may have worded it wrong I didn't get it they only had 4000 size. Found em fo $140 on eBay haven't ordered yet. I wanted to use my Cabelas GCs
Ah gotcha
You guys happen to know the JDM equivalent to the Ballistic?
Quote from: MCS on April 02, 2016, 09:13:28 PM
Ah gotcha
I managed a pic after all
(https://www.ultimatebass.com/bass-fishing-forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi112.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn192%2FDam0007Bass%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsaiaylhwn.png&hash=6b5da224ce59a94f5c9a8cc47d0cd02bdcb6f681) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/Dam0007Bass/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsaiaylhwn.png.html)
Your phones about to die dude better get that on charge :p
That's a sweet reel man, did you order it?
Quote from: MCS on April 03, 2016, 09:41:52 PM
Your phones about to die dude better get that on charge :p
That's a sweet reel man, did you order it?
Ordered 2, the 2000 and 2500. 2000 is for a drop shot Rod that's in the process of being built and the 2500 for my other custom, shakey head Rod. So that's out of the way. Next reel I'm gonna wait for the Zillion HLC then hopefully the rest of the JDM zillions prices will drop a little more.
Quote from: Dam0007 on April 03, 2016, 09:58:08 PM
Ordered 2, the 2000 and 2500. 2000 is for a drop shot Rod that's in the process of being built and the 2500 for my other custom, shakey head Rod. So that's out of the way. Next reel I'm gonna wait for the Zillion HLC then hopefully the rest of the JDM zillions prices will drop a little more.
HLC are pretty sick. You cannot find an HLC spool for the old zillions ANYWHERE :shocking:
HLC looks bad ass! The concept of the braking adjustment, I honestly don't know if it will make a difference. I'm casting 3/4oz on the c rig. Some guys do 1/2oz, others 1oz, I just stick with the 3/4 so now that I think about it, should be set and forget!
Have like a dozen rods up for sale on BBC once those start going, going to start the replacement purchases.
Like I said I'm not going to start selling until HLC and Steez release but I'm taking pre orders Lmaooo
It's ok to drool I guess. Pricing isn't definite yet either....
Chronarch 201E5 $165
Chronarch 201E5 $165
Chronarch 201E6 $165
Chronarch 201E6 $165
Chronarch 201E7 $165
Citica 201G6 $70 (Carbontex Drag)
Curado 201G7 $75
Curado 201G7 $75
Curado 201I $125 9/10
Citica 201IHG $125 9/10
Metanium XG JDM $300 (mint)
Scorpion 1001XT JDM $175 (no rash)
Scorpion 1001XT JDM $165 (minor rash)
All non JDM models added bearings to knobs. All have a minor rash and priced accordingly. The 5speed Chronarchs have new square spacers in tension cap.
Lucky for my wife they are all lefties. Lol
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on May 19, 2016, 04:17:40 AM
Lucky for my wife they are all lefties. Lol
do the prices look reasonable? Feel free to chime in
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 19, 2016, 02:51:29 PM
do the prices look reasonable? Feel free to chime in
Yeah, as long as they are all in almost mint condition.
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 19, 2016, 02:51:29 PM
do the prices look reasonable? Feel free to chime in
IMO the G's will go for more, if you use ebay people don't know what the hell they are doing, I seen them around 100.....and I think the XT 1000s could be more like 190 for you.
I know how much you guys like troubleshooting. Fix this list lol
Add a JDM Daiwa Reel and Gear Ratio to each empty slot
Casting:
Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tat 6.3:1
Fury 735C - Frogs - Tat 6.3:1
Fury 795SB - A Rig - Tat HD JDM 6.3:1
Savvy 663 - Flukes - Tat Type R 6.3:1
Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits -
Champ 685CB - Topwater -
Champ 704CB - 4-8ft cranks -
Champ 705CB - 10-18ft cranks -
Champ 702C - 3/16oz Jig -
Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig -
Champ 734C - SpinnBuzzChat -
ChampX 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig -
ChampX 743C - Keitechs -
ChampX 744C - C Rig -
Spinning:
Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex
Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex
For Crig I'm leaning towards Zillion HLC and squarebill I'm thinking do Tat Crazy Cranker 5.5:1 which is JDM only in lefty.
Unless I end up with a dozen Steez in this list I'm gonna just go ahead and order them all in one shot then sell everything left over. If I end up keeping a few Shimanos I think the Met XG would be a good be on the Keitech Rod.
Have fun guys lol
Why do the scorpions have to be lefty ~rant
YES met XG on the Keitech sounds great! Always keep at min 1 shimano :-*......I like the looks of the new zillion HLC, definitely do get one for the C-rig....Because I never will and well I can at least look at your pics and pretend ;PHO) lo Sounds like your gonna have a helluva line up there enjoy ;D ;)
The only 2 I would really keep are the scorpions for the 684 & 685. Those reels are just too good to be true lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 23, 2016, 08:00:03 AM
The only 2 I would really keep are the scorpions for the 684 & 685. Those reels are just too good to be true lol
Tell me about it. I wish I woulda bought 2 or 3 at the time instead of 1. lo
Quote from: MCS on May 23, 2016, 08:03:20 AM
Tell me about it. I wish I woulda bought 2 or 3 at the time instead of 1. lo
during practice as I had a Chronarch E for squarebills I switched to the Tat throwing a 1.0 Strike King squarebill. The E was getting maybe 20 yards. The Tat 30+ yards easy even into the wind a good distance. No backlashes. Tried again the next practice day between the Scorpion and Tat, not as good as the Tat but wayyyy better than the E. I did this same scenario a month ago throwing a 110 Jr. No other Shimano can hold a match to the Scorp. It's cut and dry which is the better performer. But the Tat just does it for me. The Scorp can perform as good but you have to be a little more mindful thumbing the spool the Tat not so much, more user friendly you can say. Idk hated the Tats when I got them but then again was because the 13 reel seat. Now that I'm all Dobyns and the reel seat is normal I have zero complaints on comfort. I'm sold lol just wish they didn't skimp on the USDM models.
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 23, 2016, 09:05:11 AM
during practice as I had a Chronarch E for squarebills I switched to the Tat throwing a 1.0 Strike King squarebill. The E was getting maybe 20 yards. The Tat 30+ yards easy even into the wind a good distance. No backlashes. Tried again the next practice day between the Scorpion and Tat, not as good as the Tat but wayyyy better than the E. I did this same scenario a month ago throwing a 110 Jr. No other Shimano can hold a match to the Scorp. It's cut and dry which is the better performer. But the Tat just does it for me. The Scorp can perform as good but you have to be a little more mindful thumbing the spool the Tat not so much, more user friendly you can say. Idk hated the Tats when I got them but then again was because the 13 reel seat. Now that I'm all Dobyns and the reel seat is normal I have zero complaints on comfort. I'm sold lol just wish they didn't skimp on the USDM models.
I hear you, that scorp can sling a popx or a shadow rap like nothing I even seen....I just put a set of hedghog ZR bearings in mine. It's just silly now.
I fished a friends tatula once, I didn't really have a problem with it being too big. I think the 200 shimanos palmed worse for me. wide doesn't bother me its the taller reels I don't like. I never got a tatula because I heard the early versions would groove the line guide and frames with braid.
Once I got the scorp it was all over, like why switch lol.
Quote from: MCS on May 23, 2016, 09:13:02 AM
I hear you, that scorp can sling a popx or a shadow rap like nothing I even seen....I just put a set of hedghog ZR bearings in mine. It's just silly now.
I fished a friends tatula once, I didn't really have a problem with it being too big. I think the 200 shimanos palmed worse for me. wide doesn't bother me its the taller reels I don't like. I never got a tatula because I heard the early versions would groove the line guide and frames with braid.
Once I got the scorp it was all over, like why switch lol.
that's why I don't like the Met for the jig Rod I rest my index finger across the top under the line guide, the distance from the thumb bar to the top is like a inch longer than any other reel. Those bearings gotta be sick. I just flush and lube the stocks for the most part. Did a handful of orange seals on some reels and didn't justify the price tag for me anyways.
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 23, 2016, 10:48:19 AM
that's why I don't like the Met for the jig Rod I rest my index finger across the top under the line guide, the distance from the thumb bar to the top is like a inch longer than any other reel. Those bearings gotta be sick. I just flush and lube the stocks for the most part. Did a handful of orange seals on some reels and didn't justify the price tag for me anyways.
Yeah that is what I hear they are like a stretch limo lo I am interested in the low end like Casitas and upgrading parts like bearings and gears. they seem to have nicer ergos and some decent features.
They are not too bad, I picked them up at the tackle trap 8.99 a pop.
So as my research continues here's what I'm thinking so far
C Rig - Zillion HLC when it's released
Squarebills - Tatula JDM 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker'
Keitechs - Tatula HLC 8.1:1
3/8-1/2oz Jigs - Zillion SV 9.1:1
Then maybe (2) Tat CT Type Rs for the 702 and 703 pitching setups to keep costs down.
From what I'm reading the Tat HLC is designed to bomb casts as far as possible but the Zillion HLC adds additional braking for the heavier presentations. Can't find anything to confirm wether or not the Tat HLC adds more breaking or not which I wouldn't want on Keitechs.
Placed my first conversion order
JDM Tatula 8.1:1 HLC - for Keitech
JDM Tatula 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker' - for Squares as I reel way too fast for my own good with the 6.3:1 lol
JDM Zillion SV 9.1:1 XXHL - for 3/8-1/2oz jigs
Now I wait patient lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 27, 2016, 10:42:07 AM
Placed my first conversion order
JDM Tatula 8.1:1 HLC - for Keitech
JDM Tatula 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker' - for Squares as I reel way too fast for my own good with the 6.3:1 lol
JDM Zillion SV 9.1:1 XXHL - for 3/8-1/2oz jigs
Now I wait patient lol
Patient my ^-^
~roflmao
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on May 27, 2016, 10:51:30 AM
Patient my ^-^
~roflmao
Lmao
TW sale scored a Tat Tactical for $130 ! :) stumbled upon it as Daiwa is usually excluded.
Im currently offering back and forth on fleabay on a nib steez ltd. probly the sharpest reel ive ever owned and i need it back. Wont come cheap tho. Still have yours lmg?
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Quote from: Dark3 on May 28, 2016, 09:56:14 AM
Im currently offering back and forth on fleabay on a nib steez ltd. probly the sharpest reel ive ever owned and i need it back. Wont come cheap tho. Still have yours lmg?
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Another reel lol u buy any rods yet? How's desert life treating u?
Quote from: MCS on May 28, 2016, 11:55:25 AM
Another reel lol u buy any rods yet? How's desert life treating u?
Im back home now. It sucked. I changed my mind on the steez. Decided to go away from daiwa for awhile. Dont like the direction they are going in with all the tws and such. Selling the alphas air on bbc, will be replaced with an Alde.
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Quote from: Dark3 on May 28, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
Im back home now. It sucked. I changed my mind on the steez. Decided to go away from daiwa for awhile. Dont like the direction they are going in with all the tws and such. Selling the alphas air on bbc, will be replaced with an Alde.
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WELCOME BACK< :toot: Sounds like the heat cooked some sense into you ;D
Which Alde?
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 28, 2016, 08:45:52 AM
Lmao
TW sale scored a Tat Tactical for $130 ! :) stumbled upon it as Daiwa is usually excluded.
I also was surprised the 15% came off the tat ct R gave me an extra 25 toward other stuff I didn't need but had to have :help:
That was by far the cheapest daiwa loudmouth gambler made me buy. >:D
Quote from: nats on May 28, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
I also was surprised the 15% came off the tat ct R gave me an extra 25 toward other stuff I didn't need but had to have :help:
I tried adding the CT and CT type R it didn't add discount
Discount applies to the discount price of the Metanium Shimano guys!!!
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 28, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
Discount applies to the discount price of the Metanium Shimano guys!!!
Nice!!! Lol you guys are hilarious
Quote from: MCS on May 28, 2016, 03:29:59 PM
Nice!!! Lol you guys are hilarious
$331 lol the HG said +10 in stock 20 mins ago now only the regular one left
Quote from: MCS on May 28, 2016, 02:27:28 PM
WELCOME BACK< :toot: Sounds like the heat cooked some sense into you ;D
Which Alde?
Either the '15 50hg or the '16 bfs xg. Really dont matter honestly
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I've become a crack "woops" with reels. ~roflmao
Just pulled the trigger on a 'new to me' Megabass IS71 Hyper Lariat
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 29, 2016, 09:33:14 AM
I've become a crack "woops" with reels. ~roflmao
Just pulled the trigger on a 'new to me' Megabass IS71 Hyper Lariat
I know, I seen that you were interested.
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Quote from: Dark3 on May 29, 2016, 10:02:41 AM
I know, I seen that you were interested.
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Lol dude wanted more I asked for pics he sold it dude backed out he dropped the price I asked for pics again. So ended up gettin it cheaper lol
I'm also debating on that Zillion on BBC TDZ 7.3 Limited. I ain't paying what he's asking though a little research and found them going used around 200-220
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 29, 2016, 10:36:30 AM
I'm also debating on that Zillion on BBC TDZ 7.3 Limited. I ain't paying what he's asking though a little research and found them going used around 200-220
I think its ugly if your talkin about the blue and gold
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Quote from: Dark3 on May 29, 2016, 11:26:04 AM
I think its ugly if your talkin about the blue and gold
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no the black and carbon fiber one
Only zillion I'd really buy is the red 50th anniversary edition.....the hyper lariat is cool ass reel, congrats on that score.
Quote from: MCS on May 29, 2016, 02:34:55 PM
Only zillion I'd really buy is the red 50th anniversary edition.....the hyper lariat is cool ass reel, congrats on that score.
thanks! Whoever is looking for a ton of used lefty Shimanos is gonna go broke in about a month lol
Lol good thing I'm a righty lol
Quote from: MCS on May 29, 2016, 07:09:34 PM
Lol good thing I'm a righty lol
Cumaras with Stradic Ci4 and Ci4+'s??
Lol still debating on if I'll ever sell them Have so many memories with them!
Just got a new pflueger limited edition lol I'm good thx
Quote from: MCS on May 29, 2016, 07:09:34 PM
Lol good thing I'm a righty lol
+1 lol
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Well I need this Alphas Air gone. If anybody interested let me know. I have an invoice for 4 reels from Kazu in jp waiting for paid in full to ship.
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Little update to the Arsenal
* - rods I ordered
Bold - reels I ordered
Casting:
Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tatula 5.5:1 'Crazy Cranker'
Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1
Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD JDM 6.3:1
Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1
Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Scorpion 1001XT
Champ 685CB - Topwater - Scorpion 1001XT
Champ 704CB Glass - 4-8ft cranks - Chronarch 201E6
Champ 705CB - 8-12ft cranks - Chronarch 201E5
*Champ 765CB - 14ft+ cranks - Chronarch 201E5
Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Tatula Tactical 7.3:1
Champ 702C - 3/16oz Jig - Tatula 6.3:1
Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula 6.3:1
DC HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1
DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC
DX HP 744C - C Rig - Zillion TW HLC
*DX HP 795Flip - Flipping - IS71
Spinning:
Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex
Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex
Line up is gonna be a work in progress as I'll be experimenting with which reel for what application. Once I'm comfortable and I'm sure I'll move things around. I'll then finish off the conversion. Who knows maybe I won't like some of the new ones and keep some Shimanos ??
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 31, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
Line up is gonna be a work in progress as I'll be experimenting with which reel for what application. Once I'm comfortable and I'm sure I'll move things around. I'll then finish off the conversion. Who knows maybe I won't like some of the new ones and keep some Shimanos ??
Speaking of line...up....You use sunline if I recall correctly? How you like it? I was swayed by the tt review to give armilo a try.
Quote from: Dam0007 on May 31, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
Line up is gonna be a work in progress as I'll be experimenting with which reel for what application. Once I'm comfortable and I'm sure I'll move things around. I'll then finish off the conversion. Who knows maybe I won't like some of the new ones and keep some Shimanos ??
Will be in the same boat here. In a few days and a trip from Japan ill have a few four more shimanos here = 5 all brand new. Been saving up for months for one big shibang. Staying at 5 for now but will probly head back up to 6 or 7 eventually but its time to move funds against rods. Atleast they are cheaper than reels generally. I think that atleast innitially anyways, im gonna pair rod/reel combos based more on the techniques i enjoy the most rather than being capable of throwing everything possible like usual. I think that leads to bad combo decisions based on "what ifs" rather than optimal for what you "will" end up throwing most of the time.
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Quote from: MCS on June 02, 2016, 08:29:53 PM
Speaking of line...up....You use sunline if I recall correctly? How you like it? I was swayed by the tt review to give armilo a try.
Love it! And their customer support is second to none! Had a bad spool of 8lb Assassin I called to tell them and possibly give them info to narrow down the batch they begged me to send it in so I did and they next day aired 2 spools 1 replacement and 1 to cover me shipping the other spool back. Like literally Called Monday Shipped line Tuesday morning got home from work and package was on steps.
Armilo is what I use for Spin/buzz/chatter baits.
Sniper: jigs, t Rigs, worms, cranks
Shooter: paddle tails, c rig
Super natural: top water and squarebills
Flippin FC: Flippin
Sx1: Finesse
FX2: A Rig, frogs, swimbaits
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Quadruplets!!!! Oh so pretty....all those new reels....so pretty lol
nice congrats on the new additions.
Yeah I pretty much had the same idea as you with the armilo plus I'm gonna Texas rig with it too for now, I still want to try senshi for that though. (Unless this stuff is sooo good) Then a spool of the super natural was what I was thinking for my topwater/jerkbaits. Awesome to hear their service is excellent.
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Very nice set there. Just make sure you are very careful with the IS, they scratch very easily.
Quote from: MCS on June 04, 2016, 05:50:57 AM
Quadruplets!!!! Oh so pretty....all those new reels....so pretty lol
nice congrats on the new additions.
Yeah I pretty much had the same idea as you with the armilo plus I'm gonna Texas rig with it too for now, I still want to try senshi for that though. (Unless this stuff is sooo good) Then a spool of the super natural was what I was thinking for my topwater/jerkbaits. Awesome to hear their service is excellent.
Jerkbaits without a doubt go Sniper! I use 10lb for jerkbaits. Stuff is great!
Top Water they have Defier Armilo its like $40?for 75 yards? Or something crazy lol lol
In a perfect world I'd have a Rod dedicated for Ricos in that case 10# super natural
But it's not a perfect world so my Rod also throws Ima Skimmers and 115 Sammys. 14lb Super Natural has been good to me!
one technique Armilo is a match made in heaven is weightless Flukes. If you want to keep them high in water column over suspending weeds you get the benefits of mono but then there's no stretch so you can really lay into a hookset and keep the sucker from turning its head and shooting back down into the weeds he came from.
Btw Armilo is designed for some knot that you have 3 tag ins. It's impossible to tie with 17lb. It really acts like fluoro and cuts into itself. So be careful with Palomar. I use San Diego Jam.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 04, 2016, 06:09:59 AM
Very nice set there. Just make sure you are very careful with the IS, they scratch very easily.
honestly dude I'm very disappointed with the IS. Thing msrp is like $800 Megabass is smoking crack! If you brought me to a store and this had no label and no price tag I would thing it's a budget $39.99 store brand reel that Daiwa made for them. I actually spent quite some time investigating it afraid I bought a bootleg reel. Haven't even fished it yet and wore the paint down to the almond color plastic in 2 spots. >:(
The zillion SV tho. OMG this is where it's at!
Thanks for the kind words bro!
Btw Idk if you guys been on BBC lately but my great Shimano reel sell off has started.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 04, 2016, 08:15:10 AM
Jerkbaits without a doubt go Sniper! I use 10lb for jerkbaits. Stuff is great!
Top Water they have Defier Armilo its like $40?for 75 yards? Or something crazy lol lol
In a perfect world I'd have a Rod dedicated for Ricos in that case 10# super natural
But it's not a perfect world so my Rod also throws Ima Skimmers and 115 Sammys. 14lb Super Natural has been good to me!
one technique Armilo is a match made in heaven is weightless Flukes. If you want to keep them high in water column over suspending weeds you get the benefits of mono but then there's no stretch so you can really lay into a hookset and keep the sucker from turning its head and shooting back down into the weeds he came from.
Btw Armilo is designed for some knot that you have 3 tag ins. It's impossible to tie with 17lb. It really acts like fluoro and cuts into itself. So be careful with Palomar. I use San Diego Jam.
Thanks I'll keep sniper in mind. I been using stren magnathin or pline c21. You think the sniper being clear will make a diff? I'm sure the amount I need to work the bait will change since its stiffer?
Yeah I seen it, it's 40 bucks lol this 17 was almost double what I spend on mono. Lol
I figure this armilo would be a little different. I read it casts nicer than fluro not too much fluffing.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 04, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
honestly dude I'm very disappointed with the IS. Thing msrp is like $800 Megabass is smoking crack! If you brought me to a store and this had no label and no price tag I would thing it's a budget $39.99 store brand reel that Daiwa made for them. I actually spent quite some time investigating it afraid I bought a bootleg reel. Haven't even fished it yet and wore the paint down to the almond color plastic in 2 spots. >:(
The zillion SV tho. OMG this is where it's at!
Thanks for the kind words bro!
Dude, this is why I sold my Steez SV. Just didnt feel it was any better than say my Curado 50E. Made good use of the money and profit I made selling it though. lo
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 04, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
honestly dude I'm very disappointed with the IS. Thing msrp is like $800 Megabass is smoking crack! If you brought me to a store and this had no label and no price tag I would thing it's a budget $39.99 store brand reel that Daiwa made for them. I actually spent quite some time investigating it afraid I bought a bootleg reel. Haven't even fished it yet and wore the paint down to the almond color plastic in 2 spots. >:(
The zillion SV tho. OMG this is where it's at!
Thanks for the kind words bro!
Dont know why megabass loves the matte black paint so much. No durability or class. I once had a zonda 68. Components were very nice, paint job sucked. I put alot of thought in paint durability when buying reels. Salwater fine reels seem to do better aswell
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Good news there are several reel painters out there. You can have a one of a kind reel or flip it to try to get some of your money back
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Quote from: MCS on June 04, 2016, 08:52:34 AM
Thanks I'll keep sniper in mind. I been using stren magnathin or pline c21. You think the sniper being clear will make a diff? I'm sure the amount I need to work the bait will change since its stiffer?
Yeah I seen it, it's 40 bucks lol this 17 was almost double what I spend on mono. Lol
I figure this armilo would be a little different. I read it casts nicer than fluro not too much fluffing.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated
FC sinks, keeps the nose down. And if water temp changes and your suspending JB starts floating just up to 12# test and viola. Back to suspending with the nose down. sniper rules for jerkbaits IMO. But I am also trying out this Assassin this year in 8# loving it so far. Bought it in 8 for leader material but it hates the knot I use for braid to FC. So said screw it put it on a Scorp and had nothing but a good experience. Other than the bad spool Sunline replaced as I stated.
The Armilo casts 3/8+ well I wouldn't go lower might get a little springing action going on with 1/4oz. I'm using it to cast 1/2oz+ stuff with zero issue!
Edit* Defier is $34.99 for 85 yards on Sunlines site
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 04, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
Dude, this is why I sold my Steez SV. Just didnt feel it was any better than say my Curado 50E. Made good use of the money and profit I made selling it though. lo
I gotta fish it. I need 1 reel without T wing for flipping and hopefully this is it. Super light too which is good, days I'm flipping that's the only Rod in my hand the entire day.
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it looks like it was spray painted with matte krylon only krylon would last better lmao
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Quote from: Dam0007 on June 04, 2016, 12:56:16 PM
it looks like it was spray painted with matte krylon only krylon would last better lmao
I sprayed an old Abu the paint holds good from rubbing and dings....til a zoom bait laid on it turned it to pine tar lol still it not half as delicate as that mb paint sounds. Weird huh
MCS Legacy has Assassin for $15 a spool on eBay and 660 yard spools of Shooter for $80 just spent way more than I wanted too lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 04, 2016, 07:44:45 PM
MCS Legacy has Assassin for $15 a spool on eBay and 660 yard spools of Shooter for $80 just spent way more than I wanted too lol
That's were I got the armilo paid 16 something shipped
Their eBay store has some good deals
Quote from: MCS on June 04, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
That's were I got the armilo paid 16 something shipped
Their eBay store has some good deals
This other guy from mass. Big Fish Sports eBay store has good deals on Seaguar I used to use him. Been buying from Legacys eBay since I switched to Sunline. They're very sporadic with eBay inventory. I think what's not selling good on their site they throw on eBay? Good guys to deal with either way. $80 for 660 yards of Shooter is rare on holiday sales Nevermind regular day. Lol
Ok so Arsenal update I went over budget.... Lol thanks Megabass! Smfh any how so 702C and 703C are getting Tat Type Rs. Now debating on if I should do the 2 more zillions for the cranking rods or save coin and get 2 more crazy cranker Tats.... Ehhh
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 05, 2016, 08:28:10 PM
Ok so Arsenal update I went over budget.... Lol thanks Megabass! Smfh any how so 702C and 703C are getting Tat Type Rs. Now debating on if I should do the 2 more zillions for the cranking rods or save coin and get 2 more crazy cranker Tats.... Ehhh
Soooo What do you really gain spending the extra cash to get the zillion for the cranking? How often to do you crank compare to other techniques?....That is what I would ask and see if the zillions made sense.
Quote from: MCS on June 06, 2016, 05:52:44 AM
Soooo What do you really gain spending the extra cash to get the zillion for the cranking? How often to do you crank compare to other techniques?....That is what I would ask and see if the zillions made sense.
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From Feb till April that's all I throw then again Oct-Nov. cranking reels get abused more than any other reel because there's always a constant pressure so I've always thought buy the better reels.
Here's the list don't mind the line, I keep track of the put on dates.
LINE
ROD & REEL ARSENAL
Casting:
Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tatula 'Crazy Cranker' JDM
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1
- 65# FX2
Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD 6.3:1 JDM
- 65# FX2
Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Tatula 6.3:1
- 8# Assassin FC
Champ 685CB - Topwater - Tatula 6.3:1
- 14# Super Natural CLEAR
Champ 705CB - 6-12ft cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ 765CB - 14ft+ cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Tatula Tactical 7.3:1
- 17# Defier
Champ 702C - 3/16-1/4oz Jig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 10# Sniper
Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 15# Assassin FC
DX HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM
- 12# Sniper
DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC JDM
- 10# Shooter
DX HP 744C - C Rig - Zillion TW HLC JDM
- 16# Shooter
DX HP 795Flip - Flipping - Megabass IS71 Hyper Lariat
- 16# Flippin' FC
Spinning:
Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex
- 16# SX1 - 10# Sniper
Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex
- 12# SX1 - 7# Sniper
Another thing I'm thinking about is doing either Alphas or regular Tat CTs for the Jerkbait and Topwater rods. As I was using the Scorpions, smaller reels better on the wrists. Or actually maybe the IS71 on jerkbaits and if I can find another one for the Topwater Rod. Idk decisions decisions lmao
I'd go alphas sv for the JB/Topwater. But damn the JDM prices just keep creeping up.
Quote from: MCS on June 06, 2016, 09:11:13 AM
I'd go alphas sv for the JB/Topwater. But damn the JDM prices just keep creeping up.
Wish someone local had em I can feel how they Palm.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 06, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
Wish someone local had em I can feel how they Palm.
LMG had one, but he sold it. Ask him his thoughts. I looked at getting one but the deal came for the Scorp XT and I haven't looked back. But apples to apples that makes the most sense on paper if your replacing the Scorps. i'd be hesitant to replace those though. They up for sale? You got pics?
Quote from: MCS on June 06, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
LMG had one, but he sold it. Ask him his thoughts. I looked at getting one but the deal came for the Scorp XT and I haven't looked back. But apples to apples that makes the most sense on paper if your replacing the Scorps. i'd be hesitant to replace those though. They up for sale? You got pics?
sold em already the pair went for $340 shipped
All that's left is
(2) Curado 201G7
Curado 201i
Citica 201G6
Citica 201i HG
Metanium XG JDM
(1) Chronarch 201E5 left as well
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 06, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
sold em already the pair went for $340 shipped
All that's left is
(2) Curado 201G7
Curado 201i
Citica 201G6
Citica 201i HG
Metanium XG JDM
(1) Chronarch 201E5 left as well
:( I might have learned to fish left handed
Quote from: MCS on June 06, 2016, 09:11:13 AM
I'd go alphas sv for the JB/Topwater. But damn the JDM prices just keep creeping up.
You aint lying. I just got rapedon the exchange rate. It went up 5% in a week
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Guys!!!! Do yourself a favor and buy the Zillion SV at least one of them! This thing blows the Met out the water it's not even a fair fight.
I have to go all Zillion having used this one today. Sweet Baby Jesus!!! (Ricky Bobby voice)
Hahaha I hear they are good but there's a guy on blade forum who has the new zillion on a perfect pitch and the met mgl on a jackal poison adrena and he says the mgl seems to just rocket the bait, feel better casting/quality eventhough distance goes to zillion....personally not using them I have to give looks to the mgl, it's a purdy reel.
I don't need a reel like either tho so I leave the testing up to you ;)
This one is on my jig Rod. I'll prob never cast it. I pitch, the whole pendulum thing. I can put a jig in a coffee cup 35 yards out repeatedly with this thing. The Met I'm accurate up to maybe 15 yards anything after that you need to really flick your wrist and raise your elbow. Even with no brakes and the tension knob barely holding the spool. This zillion I can cast straight to the ground and not get a back lash. If I did that with a Met I'm respooling lol
Edit this is my whole thing why I wanted to switch. I throw primarily light stuff 3/16-3/8 is like my sweet spot. 1/2oz and heavier is mainly in tidal water minus Flippin 1oz + Brush hogs, beavers etc.
I always ran into issues with light stuff with Shimano the Scorps being that rare exception but even with them I may get a loop or 2 no matter how well I thumb the spool. I saw a video of this Japanese guy demoing the Zillion SV and he was lob pitching a 4" cross tail shad on a mosquito hook 10-15yards and casting it 30yards easily. That was it I threw my hands up and said F this S#!t sign me up!
Can one of you guys buy this damn Met off me now so I can make another order lmao
Lol. Welcome to the SV world. The best thing for light baits. I still say the new SV103 and SV Zillion TWS are gonna rock the market. Im honna be trying the Tatula CT since its based on the Zillion TWS, and I dont need and SV spool for what Im gonna do with it.
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 12:02:11 AM
Lol. Welcome to the SV world. The best thing for light baits. I still say the new SV103 and SV Zillion TWS are gonna rock the market. Im honna be trying the Tatula CT since its based on the Zillion TWS, and I dont need and SV spool for what Im gonna do with it.
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Says the guy who sold off both his because they weren't better than a 50e. ;D lo
You shoulda got a SV zillion TWS. 8) Sooooo when you ordering that one?
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 06:05:39 AM
Says the guy who sold off both his because they weren't better than a 50e. ;D lo
You shoulda got a SV zillion TWS. 8) Sooooo when you ordering that one?
I never owned either one.
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 06:15:37 AM
I never owned either one.
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Meant you sold the two SV reels you had....alphas and the Steez....Something tells me it's not SV spool alone.....maybe this strong braking, SV spool and TWS make for a perfect combination in the new Zillion...
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 06:21:08 AM
Meant you sold the two SV reels you had....alphas and the Steez....Something tells me it's not SV spool alone.....maybe this strong braking, SV spool and TWS make for a perfect combination in the new Zillion...
Not all SV reels have the same braking power. Spool may be similar, but inductor and magnets make up the rest
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 06:24:49 AM
Not all SV reels have the same braking power. Spool may be similar, but inductor and magnets make up the rest
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point is that maybe daiwa finally put the pieces together correctly this time on the zillion.....seems like the other reels only hit in an area or two.
269 ain't bad compared to the mets....Man if I could find one for 200...I might be tempted lo lo
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 06:32:21 AM
point is that maybe daiwa finally put the pieces together correctly this time on the zillion.....seems like the other reels only hit in an area or two.
Yeah, its gonna be a hard to beat reel.
I'm curious now about the SV103.....That's a USDM only reel? Is daiwa totally made in china now? Or are a highend reels still Japan made?
Seriously tho, as ugly color as the Zillion SV TWS is, the hype is growing on me.....and at least they didn't use the stupid lews like paddle knobs on the JDM versions lo lo
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 07:17:06 AM
I'm curious now about the SV103.....That's a USDM only reel? Is daiwa totally made in china now? Or are a highend reels still Japan made?
Seriously tho, as ugly color as the Zillion SV TWS is, the hype is growing on me.....and at least they didn't use the stupid lews like paddle knobs on the JDM versions lo lo
Still Japan made.
The Zillion SV TW is made in Thailand JDM version has Mag sealed bearings though.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 12:02:11 AM
Lol. Welcome to the SV world. The best thing for light baits. I still say the new SV103 and SV Zillion TWS are gonna rock the market. Im honna be trying the Tatula CT since its based on the Zillion TWS, and I dont need and SV spool for what Im gonna do with it.
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I just bought the 2 type Rs which I now regret lol Zillion is where it's at! haven't been delivered yet $150TYD when I get them lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 08:06:05 AM
The Zillion SV TW is made in Thailand JDM version has Mag sealed bearings though.
Wow, was not aware of that.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 08:09:03 AM
Wow, was not aware of that.
That's what I thought, they are either Thailand or china for their cheap crap, those old excelers I had were china that's been for a while now.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 08:07:27 AM
I just bought the 2 type Rs which I now regret lol Zillion is where it's at! haven't been delivered yet $150TYD when I get them lol
can't you return them and get more for them?....Dang man, you make that zillion sound good, they paying you lol
Would you upgrade the bearings LMG or are these good enough to leave alone?
I'm nuts just pulled the trigger on another 9:1 JDM, a 7:1 and 6:1 USDM. All 3 SV. I can't even find anything that proves the JDM even has mag sealed bearings other than word of mouth. It doesn't have it stamped in box and I can't read Japanese... So screw it saved some coin. 2 5:1 JDMs left to buy and I'm done!!!! Yay!!!! Lets celebrate! ~beer~
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 10:46:55 AM
I'm nuts just pulled the trigger on another 9:1 JDM, a 7:1 and 6:1 USDM. All 3 SV. I can't even find anything that proves the JDM even has mag sealed bearings other than word of mouth. It doesn't have it stamped in box and I can't read Japanese... So screw it saved some coin. 2 5:1 JDMs left to buy and I'm done!!!! Yay!!!! Lets celebrate! ~beer~
So aren't the USDM reels more expensive than the JDM? I see JDM for 269 and the USDM 299.....Man you must got bottomless pockets and a really understanding wife lo CONGRATS ON THE SWEET GEAR THO ~beer~ ~beer~ ~beer~
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 10:37:55 AM
can't you return them and get more for them?....Dang man, you make that zillion sound good, they paying you lol
Would you upgrade the bearings LMG or are these good enough to leave alone?
Depending on what you are using the reel for, spending the extra money for the SV may not be necessary. For instance, if you plan on using the reel for lighter baits and such, the SV spool would be an advantage. Take this into consideration, Im buying the regular Tatula CT, and gonna add a few things that should pass the specs of the Type R minus the spool weight. Im using for frogging which the spool wont be a difference maker for that application. Adding bearings to the knobs and hopefully 2 to the worm drive will make the reel silky smooth. Im going by having the previous version Tatula Type R and doing these mods, it made that reel just as smooth as my modded TD Zillions. The Type R drag star is Daiwas Zion one, and is only a $16 add on.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
Depending on what you are using the reel for, spending the extra money for the SV may not be necessary. For instance, if you plan on using the reel for lighter baits and such, the SV spool would be an advantage. Take this into consideration, Im buying the regular Tatula CT, and gonna add a few things that should pass the specs of the Type R minus the spool weight. Im using for frogging which the spool wont be a difference maker for that application. Adding bearings to the knobs and hopefully 2 to the worm drive will make the reel silky smooth. Im going by having the previous version Tatula Type R and doing these mods, it made that reel just as smooth as my modded TD Zillions. The Type R drag star is Daiwas Zion one, and is only a $16 add on.
That is exactly my thoughts with the Casitas....I had bearings and a handle and it will be better than the Curado I and 70 almost or better than a CH c4i lo.....But yeah I agree you can tweak a reel in the 150 range to be as good as some of them more expensive reels, that is why I can't bring myself to buy one.
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 11:17:54 AM
That is exactly my thoughts with the Casitas....I had bearings and a handle and it will be better than the Curado I and 70 almost or better than a CH c4i lo.....But yeah I agree you can tweak a reel in the 150 range to be as good as some of them more expensive reels, that is why I can't bring myself to buy one.
Little different scenario with that reel as it doesnt have an aluminum frame, but rather a graphite one. In my case, the Tatula is just about the same design as the Zillion minus the spool and a few bearings.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 11:20:15 AM
Little different scenario with that reel as it doesnt have an aluminum frame, but rather a graphite one. In my case, the Tatula is just about the same design as the Zillion minus the spool and a few bearings.
meh the frame don't matter in my case, main principle is just being smooth casting at the lure weight I want....My point was that yes I see the advantage in a lower cost reel being tuned or tweaked and coaxed into a better performing reel. Besides who are you kidding, the tat might as well be graphite since you cannot keep non 50e or bantam reel longer than a month or two. throw longevity out the door. ~roflmao
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 10:52:49 AM
So aren't the USDM reels more expensive than the JDM? I see JDM for 269 and the USDM 299.....Man you must got bottomless pockets and a really understanding wife lo CONGRATS ON THE SWEET GEAR THO ~beer~ ~beer~ ~beer~
Lmao the USDM versions I scored for $245 each free shipping some eBay store had $260 or best offer so I put $220 each they counter offered $245 I said screw it and bought them. Lmao the JDM 9.1:1 was like $270 with shipping. Already posted the Type Rs for sale on BBC they haven't even been delivered yet lmao
What I could do now is go back to 6.3:1 for squarebill and just get 1 more cranking reel and I'm done or sell my regular OG tats and buy the 2 zillions 5.5:1. There's deals out there, just gotta be patient what is it going on 2 months now doing this conversion.
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 11:40:03 AM
meh the frame don't matter in my case, main principle is just being smooth casting at the lure weight I want....My point was that yes I see the advantage in a lower cost reel being tuned or tweaked and coaxed into a better performing reel. Besides who are you kidding, the tat might as well be graphite since you cannot keep non 50e or bantam reel longer than a month or two. throw longevity out the door. ~roflmao
You never know, it may fit the bill for my frogging. Plus, I wanted a lesser expensive reel that I could tear up and not shed a tear. ~roflmao
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 12:14:38 PM
You never know, it may fit the bill for my frogging. Plus, I wanted a lesser expensive reel that I could tear up and not shed a tear. ~roflmao
Lews...super.....duty ~roflmao
The CTR do look cool....and I dig that hrf pe...you seen that, half black half red like two face. :shocking:
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 12:14:38 PM
You never know, it may fit the bill for my frogging. Plus, I wanted a lesser expensive reel that I could tear up and not shed a tear. ~roflmao
Buy my met great frog reel lol
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 12:24:53 PM
Lews...super.....duty ~roflmao
Had one, sold it shortly after. Felt like a cheap piece of crap. lo
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 07, 2016, 12:34:29 PM
Had one, sold it shortly after. Felt like a cheap piece of crap. lo
~roflmao I know.... 8)
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 12:31:35 PM
Buy my met great frog reel lol
Have a Metanium DC because I hate the SVS Infinity brakes, plus youre a southpaw. I wouldnt use an aluminum geared reel for frogging.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 12:31:35 PM
Buy my met great frog reel lol
What you use the met for?
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 12:38:28 PM
What you use the met for?
bought it for jigs used it literally once and it went back in the box
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 11:59:46 AM
Lmao the USDM versions I scored for $245 each free shipping some eBay store had $260 or best offer so I put $220 each they counter offered $245 I said screw it and bought them. Lmao the JDM 9.1:1 was like $270 with shipping. Already posted the Type Rs for sale on BBC they haven't even been delivered yet lmao
What I could do now is go back to 6.3:1 for squarebill and just get 1 more cranking reel and I'm done or sell my regular OG tats and buy the 2 zillions 5.5:1. There's deals out there, just gotta be patient what is it going on 2 months now doing this conversion.
I personally would rather have the USDM version, that Mag Seal is as useless as Bubblegum scented toilet paper.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 12:41:58 PM
bought it for jigs used it literally once and it went back in the box
You hate it that much? I heard all the people sweating them poo poo the Chronarch saying the met is SOOOO connected. blah blah blah.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 11:59:46 AM
Lmao the USDM versions I scored for $245 each free shipping some eBay store had $260 or best offer so I put $220 each they counter offered $245 I said screw it and bought them. Lmao the JDM 9.1:1 was like $270 with shipping. Already posted the Type Rs for sale on BBC they haven't even been delivered yet lmao
What I could do now is go back to 6.3:1 for squarebill and just get 1 more cranking reel and I'm done or sell my regular OG tats and buy the 2 zillions 5.5:1. There's deals out there, just gotta be patient what is it going on 2 months now doing this conversion.
NICE DEAL MAN!!! 245 is almost in my wheel house lol. I give em 6 months see if they drop, by then I should be ready for a new reel.... 8)
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
You hate it that much? I heard all the people sweating them poo poo the Chronarch saying the met is SOOOO connected. blah blah blah.
It doesn't Palm well, it's tall from thumb bar to line guide. Length?? So my small index finger barely wraps the top of reel. Idk it's not a $300 reel. Would be great at the $179.99 price point when the Curado I came out it was $129.99 then they jacked up the price when the Citica came out.... Another beef of mine with Shimano. If I were to keep it it would go on the Flipping stick where I'm pulling line with free hand and dropping in pockets with trolling motor on 80. Otherwise it's as useless as breasts on a nun. Just want all the Shimanos gone to recoup some coin I dropped.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 01:09:33 PM
It doesn't Palm well, it's tall from thumb bar to line guide. Length?? So my small index finger barely wraps the top of reel. Idk it's not a $300 reel. Would be great at the $179.99 price point when the Curado I came out it was $129.99 then they jacked up the price when the Citica came out.... Another beef of mine with Shimano. If I were to keep it it would go on the Flipping stick where I'm pulling line with free hand and dropping in pockets with trolling motor on 80. Otherwise it's as useless as breasts on a nun. Just want all the Shimanos gone to recoup some coin I dropped.
Ahh....yeah I heard that, I think you mentioned that before....I am curious about the new curado/scorp 70 but here for the 200 dollar price it is meh as well.....Maybe I can pick one up used on the cheap and tune some magic into it....Dude I woulda helped you out but you HAD to be a righty using lefty. ??? :P
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 01:37:23 PM
Ahh....yeah I heard that, I think you mentioned that before....I am curious about the new curado/scorp 70 but here for the 200 dollar price it is meh as well.....Maybe I can pick one up used on the cheap and tune some magic into it....Dude I woulda helped you out but you HAD to be a righty using lefty. ??? :P
Lmao dude it drives me nuts these companies don't release cranking ratios in Lefty in USDM. Stupid stupid stupid. Wether I buy 2 more Tats or go Zillion or Zillion SV I'm screwed. Had the lefty version been available here I would have stocked up Memorial Day at TW.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 01:54:26 PM
Lmao dude it drives me nuts these companies don't release cranking ratios in Lefty in USDM. Stupid stupid stupid. Wether I buy 2 more Tats or go Zillion or Zillion SV I'm screwed. Had the lefty version been available here I would have stocked up Memorial Day at TW.
~roflmao cuz your doing it all wrong man.
Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
~roflmao cuz your doing it all wrong man.
I tried once using a righty reel and it was for Tuna lol
Lol
Ive just witnessed some crazy comments. Enjoy the daiwas, mine are gone.
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Quote from: Dark3 on June 07, 2016, 06:35:53 PM
Ive just witnessed some crazy comments. Enjoy the daiwas, mine are gone.
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Y'all shoulda traded lol....I like the way I think dark. Lol
Quote from: Dark3 on June 07, 2016, 06:35:53 PM
Ive just witnessed some crazy comments. Enjoy the daiwas, mine are gone.
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You had some crazy ish for sure.
Got the armilo 13 pound spooled on the scorp. It's nice smooth line, little bit of stiffness. I liken it to 16 pound magnathin, but silkier. I tried the Morizo knot. Couple casts in the dark, nice normal mono type casts. Definitely feel more weeds as I swam the worm back and thinner than the pline 12 pound I was using. Full test in am liking it so far.
Box full 'o shimano at the PO jfor pick up. Darn mail man wont just bring packages that need signatures.
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Quote from: MCS on June 07, 2016, 09:18:41 PM
Got the armilo 13 pound spooled on the scorp. It's nice smooth line, little bit of stiffness. I liken it to 16 pound magnathin, but silkier. I tried the Morizo knot. Couple casts in the dark, nice normal mono type casts. Definitely feel more weeds as I swam the worm back and thinner than the pline 12 pound I was using. Full test in am liking it so far.
yeah it's stiff but definitely quality and abrasion resistant. All of Sunlines stuff is good
What are your guys thought on handle length???
This Tat 5.5:1 has a 80mm handle, which I would think I'd reel faster than a longer one. I was burning squarebills way too fast with the 6.3:1 (used to use the Chronarch 5:1 but can't cast KVD 1.0s lo) so I bought this thinking it would be a slower retrieve while I'm reeling fast... Umm compared to the 6 that is. Lol is the short handle defeating the purpose???
Dont care for short handles. Would take the longer handle in ever situation. 90mm is a good balance to me
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Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 09:33:21 PM
yeah it's stiff but definitely quality and abrasion resistant. All of Sunlines stuff is good
Fished with it this morning, it is great line....So far living up to my expcetations....Casts great and very senistive......I wouldn't say it is any stiffer than magnathin but less stretch....I would hate to use 17 or 20 pound though.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 07, 2016, 10:11:48 PM
What are your guys thought on handle length???
This Tat 5.5:1 has a 80mm handle, which I would think I'd reel faster than a longer one. I was burning squarebills way too fast with the 6.3:1 (used to use the Chronarch 5:1 but can't cast KVD 1.0s lo) so I bought this thinking it would be a slower retrieve while I'm reeling fast... Umm compared to the 6 that is. Lol is the short handle defeating the purpose???
I keep the stock shorty on the stock and a 102 on the abu....IMO its all relative cuz your going in a circle. where the longer shine is leverage as you crank, when you get to the top and crank down a longer is better......I count when i reel, like 2 seconds to make it around once, or 5 seconds etc. to keep me slow.
Quote from: Dark3 on June 08, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
Dont care for short handles. Would take the longer handle in ever situation. 90mm is a good balance to me
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agree 90 is good. I dunno why they put these tiny handles on, like 80 mm is small.
I saw a post awhile back some of you guys were getting all scientific about the enertia and spool size full or empty etc etc but that was mainly for IPT... I think there were 80s in my scorpions I, I can live with it but for this particular situation idk lol
Quote from: Dark3 on June 08, 2016, 07:33:41 AM
Dont care for short handles. Would take the longer handle in ever situation. 90mm is a good balance to me
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90mm for me.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 08, 2016, 09:31:31 AM
90mm for me.
what size is the studio composite you put on the met xt? I really like that one.
Quote from: MCS on June 08, 2016, 09:40:04 AM
what size is the studio composite you put on the met xt? I really like that one.
90mm
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Freaking sick.....I love the knobs want them for my abu!!!
Quote from: MCS on June 08, 2016, 02:14:19 PM
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Freaking sick.....I love the knobs want them for my abu!!!
I need to go change my undershorts. :shocking:
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Freaking sick.....I love the knobs want them for my abu!!!
Digitaka only got 50 of them and sold out immediately. I'll drop $500 on it just cause but I'll never find one so FTW lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 08, 2016, 10:19:30 PM
Digitaka only got 50 of them and sold out immediately. I'll drop $500 on it just cause but I'll never find one so FTW lol
hahaha That is nuts.....OH THOSE KNOBS!!!!
That is sweet right there!!!
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I can destroy that reel for $500. I would be able to make a killer Zillion for that kind of coin. ~bb
Ok guys placed my order for the cranking reels. Lol I might be done lol if I cancel my Zillion HLC pre order and keep the CT Type Rs line up looks like this feel free to Critique
Casting:
Fury 705CB - Squarebills - Tatula 5.5:1 JDM
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Fury 735C - Frogs - Tatula Tactical 8.1:1
- 65# FX2
Fury 795SB - A Rig/Swimbaits - Tatula HD 6.3:1 JDM
- 65# FX2
Savvy 663C - Flukes - Tatula Type R 6.3:1
- 16# Super Natural GREEN
Champ 684CB - Jerkbaits - Zillion SV 6.3:1
- 8# Assassin FC
Champ 685CB - Topwater - Zillion SV 7.3:1
- 14# Super Natural CLEAR
Champ 705CB - 8-12ft cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ XP 765CB - 12ft+ cranks - Zillion SV 5.5:1 JDM
- 10# Sniper
Champ XP 734C - SpinBuzzChat - Tatula Tactical 7.3:1
- 17# Defier Armilo
Champ 702C - 3/16-1/4oz Jig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 10# Sniper
Champ 703C - 3/8-1/2oz T Rig - Tatula CT Type R 8.1:1
- 15# Assassin FC
DX HP 703C - 3/8-1/2oz Jig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM
- 12# Assassin FC
DX HP 743C - Keitechs - Tatula HLC JDM
- 10# Shooter
DX HP 744C - 1/2oz+ C & T Rig - Zillion SV 9.1:1 JDM
- 16# Shooter
DX HP 795Flip - Flippin' - Megabass IS71
- 16# Flippin' FC
Spinning:
Custom 1 - Shakey Head - Ballistic 2500ex
- 16# SX1 Main Line - 10# Sniper Leader
Custom 2 - Drop Shot - Ballistic 2000ex
- 12# SX1 Main Line - 7# Sniper Leader
left overs
Dobyns CS 704CB Glass
Tatula 6.3:1
Tatula 6.3:1
What's there to critique? That is one SILLY line-up!! I would love to see that Zillion HLC in there, but CTRs are sweet too!
Quote from: MCS on June 09, 2016, 07:55:25 AM
What's there to critique? That is one SILLY line-up!! I would love to see that Zillion HLC in there, but CTRs are sweet too!
The only way I'm getting that Zillion HLC is if I sell the Metanium, spent my HLC money on the 2 zillion 5.5:1s. Lol and at that point I'll need to buy another DX 744 or 704 for the slightly heavier T Rigs. I may actually grab a Fury 734 for spin buzz chat. And promote the 734 Champ to T rig duty. Would be cheaper lol
Edit* pray I win this tourney Sunday! I need to recoup some cash! Lol
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:05:51 AM
The only way I'm getting that Zillion HLC is if I sell the Metanium, spent my HLC money on the 2 zillion 5.5:1s. Lol and at that point I'll need to buy another DX 744 or 704 for the slightly heavier T Rigs. I may actually grab a Fury 734 for spin buzz chat. And promote the 734 Champ to T rig duty. Would be cheaper lol
Edit* pray I win this tourney Sunday! I need to recoup some cash! Lol
I hated my champ 734 for t-rigs....that's where my dislike for dobyns was born lol (great spinnerbait/chatterbait/buzzbait stick though) I was told the DX are waaay better, but I wasn't gonna plunk that kinda cash down. Unlike you I am a baller on a budget lo lo ;)
Quote from: MCS on June 09, 2016, 08:09:13 AM
I hated my champ 734 for t-rigs....that's where my dislike for dobyns was born lol (great spinnerbait/chatterbait/buzzbait stick though) I was told the DX are waaay better, but I wasn't gonna plunk that kinda cash down. Unlike you I am a baller on a budget lo lo ;)
Only thing I'm really wondering about is the Is71 on the flipping stick. Would probably like something with a longer handle for leverage and more heavy duty lol idk
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:21:01 AM
Only thing I'm really wondering about is the Is71 on the flipping stick. Would probably like something with a longer handle for leverage and more heavy duty lol idk
IS is not a flipping reel. You need a Tat or Zillion. IS is good for lighter baits and line.
If there was a flaw I think LMG is right there, I might go with the IS on the Fluke rig or light jig rig then throw the Tat/Zillion onto the flippin stick
Can't flip with the T wing ~xyz
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:36:13 AM
Can't flip with the T wing ~xyz
Looks like that Met will come in handy lo
Soooo what's Daiwa's flippin reel? Only the Alphas SV and SS SV have standard line guides now right?
The whole reason I bought the IS71 was for flipping if this is too finessey I gotta sell it
Quote from: MCS on June 09, 2016, 08:38:08 AM
Looks like that Met will come in handy lo
Soooo what's Daiwa's flippin reel? Only the Alphas SV and SS SV have standard line guides now right?
Well I thought the Steez, Alphas is definitely Finesse and the SsSv seems like a Steez Jr. They do however have the Zillion 103 which is the old school body oval line guide with a SV spool??? That might be a option. FML don't want to buy any more reels the IS71 is t exactly a piece I can unload quickly.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
Why?
Cause when you pull the line with you're free hand it jumps up and over the wing and if you go to set the hook you'll break it. Been there done that not worth the hassle.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:53:36 AM
Cause when you pull the line with you're free hand it jumps up and over the wing and if you go to set the hook you'll break it. Been there done that not worth the hassle.
Why would you pull line line? You mean if you get a backlash?
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
Why would you pull line line? You mean if you get a backlash?
No my concept of flipping is holding Rod in one hand and pulling line inbetween reel and first guide with free hand raising and dropping bait into pockets. Trolling motor going fast covering water quick as possible.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:59:14 AM
No my concept of flipping is holding Rod in one hand and pulling line inbetween reel and first guide with free hand raising and dropping bait into pockets. Trolling motor going fast covering water quick as possible.
Ah, sounds like you need an SV103
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 09:01:50 AM
Ah, sounds like you need an SV103
Kinda like what this guy is doing but vertically fishing. Typically outside weedlines https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebt_4Vq4hAA
Edit* I wanted the lightest reel I could possibly get for this task.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 09:01:50 AM
Ah, sounds like you need an SV103
No sounds like he needs one of those denny brauer ardent reels >:D ~roflmao ~roflmao
Quote from: MCS on June 09, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
No sounds like he needs one of those denny brauer ardent reels >:D ~roflmao ~roflmao
lol exactly lol
Was thinking the IS drag is kinda week. You flip and set the hook on a 30lb pike thinking its a 3-5lb largemouth your gonna have issues. Lol
What about the Fuegos? Anyone any experience with the new ones?
Quote from: MCS on June 09, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
No sounds like he needs one of those denny brauer ardent reels >:D ~roflmao ~roflmao
Yeah, one hookset.... BOOM!
~fl
Just offered a dude a trade a limited of zillion and cash for the is71
The IS should be good at anything except cranking and flipping.
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Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 09:46:43 AM
The IS should be good at anything except cranking and flipping.
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Good for the Bama Rig? Lmao
Maybe I'll keep it for Jerkbaits but I won't be throwing those again till Feburary
It'd probably be a sick JB reel. Like a scorpion on steroids lol
The IS71 really won't work for flippin light punchin? This sucks.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
The IS71 really won't work for flippin light punchin? This sucks.
Light punching? Is that like a girl fight? ~roflmao
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
Light punching? Is that like a girl fight? ~roflmao
like water chestnut and coon tails up here not mats like in Florida or the Delta. Mainly target pockets.
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 01:50:45 PM
like water chestnut and coon tails up here not mats like in Florida or the Delta. Mainly target pockets.
Ah
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
The IS71 really won't work for flippin light punchin? This sucks.
You could probably punch with a zebco33 (wear a glove so you can pull the line lol) if you really wanted to. Its your choice really I just think another reel would be better suited especially since you have a technique specific set up. Like lmg said tat, zillion,sv103, or even better a nice shimano. They say the 70xg is a superb pitching/flipping/frogging reel
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There has been a nice tdz on the boards for a while in great condition for 200. Its old school tho.
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Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
There has been a nice tdz on the boards for a while in great condition for 200. Its old school tho.
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Ain't nothin wrong with old school. It's bullet proof so long as you don't get too finessey with it lol
Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
You could probably punch with a zebco33 (wear a glove so you can pull the line lol) if you really wanted to. Its your choice really I just think another reel would be better suited especially since you have a technique specific set up. Like lmg said tat, zillion,sv103, or even better a nice shimano. They say the 70xg is a superb pitching/flipping/frogging reel
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He has a nice shimano still.....but for some reason he cannot live with it anymore and it needs to go LOL
Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
There has been a nice tdz on the boards for a while in great condition for 200. Its old school tho.
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Yeah, I almost pulled that trigger. But the issue for me with the TDZ is lack of gear ratio.
Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
There has been a nice tdz on the boards for a while in great condition for 200. Its old school tho.
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Might be getting a JDM limited model off a kid in bbc
So my 6:1 and 7:1 USDM models came in. There's zero difference with the JDM ones other than the higher and lower gear ratios are color coded different and not available in US. Also appearantly the SVs don't have Magsealed bearings.
Magseal sucks.
Howabout some color coded MGLs. I might throw a couple drag stars on them. The cool thing is they are so nuetral you could do any color scheme and they will look good. What else does the stock met drag stars fit? They are too nice to chitcan
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Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 07:37:04 PM
Howabout some color coded MGLs. I might throw a couple drag stars on them. The cool thing is they are so nuetral you could do any color scheme and they will look good. What else does the stock met drag stars fit? They are too nice to chitcan
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They look good tricked.
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:04:40 PM
They look good tricked.
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who puts a Met on a Savvy that's like putting 22" chrome rims on a 88 Honda CRX lol
My buddy is trying to convince me to give him the Met for $250 and a Huddleston idk
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
who puts a Met on a Savvy that's like putting 22" chrome rims on a 88 Honda CRX lol
Not for long. She's got a special piece coming. Plus, it's for burning swim baits. Not a big deal for sensitivity. Just needed light and balanced.
She who wait what??!?
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:19:52 PM
She who wait what??!?
There is this guy on here that builds wonderful things to mount reels on that perform and look amazing.
Can you pm me what you guys have been paying. Anybody get a NFC blank build yet?
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:28:50 PM
There is this guy on here that builds wonderful things to mount reels on that perform and look amazing.
oh lol she is the reel I'm thinking you bought the Met for your wife lmao nice! My main custom is my shakey head Rod MHX HM 7'1 Mag ML/F Torzite guides aero reel seat. Love it
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:46:07 PM
oh lol she is the reel I'm thinking you bought the Met for your wife lmao nice! My main custom is my shakey head Rod MHX HM 7'1 Mag ML/F Torzite guides aero reel seat. Love it
No, lol. Actually my Wife was the one who went ahead and talked to Lee to do the build for me.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:47:41 PM
No, lol. Actually my Wife was the one who went ahead and talked to Lee to do the build for me.
what savvy is it? You gonna sell it after you get the Rod made?
Quote from: Dam0007 on June 09, 2016, 08:51:06 PM
what savvy is it? You gonna sell it after you get the Rod made?
SS705. Keeping it, got a Tatula CT that's gonna make a new home on it for frogging. It was my OG frog rod, and does a good job of it, so I decided to put it back to it.
Quote from: Dark3 on June 09, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
There has been a nice tdz on the boards for a while in great condition for 200. Its old school tho.
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Which boards?
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 09, 2016, 08:52:52 PM
SS705. Keeping it, got a Tatula CT that's gonna make a new home on it for frogging. It was my OG frog rod, and does a good job of it, so I decided to put it back to it.
sweet I'm giving the Fury 735 its first frog test run in the am. Practice tomorrow and Saturday, CBN #2 Sunday.
Dang guys I missed all the fun. Lol
So debated on telling you guys an upsetting story to avoid the I told you so's and the Shimano rules. But screw it lmfao
So pitching a jig in the morning yesterday brakes set to 2 barely any cast control. No prob at all pitching and skipping like a DREAMMMMM!
Tie on a chatter bait make a bomb cast and boom massive backlash dam near exploded. Idiot me forgot to adjust the brakes. Lost 1/2 a spool of Assassin. So get that all squared away and now I have a knocking as I turn the handle. I'm like ~rant because it's the JDM purchased one. Continued to fish the 7.3:1 USDM model, no problems at all.
Fast forward to when I get home. Call my reel tech and go through a bunch of stuff.
Check the flat head screw looking piece on back of pawl from the level wind.
Ok it's like halfway off.
Tightened it.
All set :)
Moral of story, make sure everything's tight on JDM models before hitting the water. Lmaoooo
Also debating on keeping these CT Type R. They're really nice.
Shimano Rule ;)
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That issue can happen on any reel. I always do a full exam when getting a reel new. Usually tearing down to upgrade anyway, so... lol.