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General Bass Fishing Discussion => Rods, Reels and Fishing Line => Topic started by: Bud Kennedy on May 07, 2020, 03:29:54 PM

Title: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: Bud Kennedy on May 07, 2020, 03:29:54 PM
Never really considered some reels just don't marry up real well to some rods.  While usually this is not an issue, I did run into a problem quite a while back.

During my Lews reel phase I put a BB-1 on my short Lee Smith Custom and it was just a nightmare.  It seemed no mater what I did the casts were fairly short and the amount of backlash action was constant.  Worked hard setting up the reel but alas nothing worked so I started looking at the rod.  It seems the line angle from the Lews to the first guide was quite steep.  Does this mean the guide was too close and should I send it back to Lee to be reworked.

About that time I decided to retire my Lews casting reels and went with all Daiwa SVTW103 with multiple gear choices.  This change immediately improved the performance of the Lee Smith Rod.  I did notice the TAT sits a little lower on the rod and the line angle to the first guide was not as severe.  The noise from the braid was mostly eliminated and the casts were all smooth and with good distance and control.  Best of all no more backlash action.  In fact the SVTWs seem to have eliminated this problem on all of my combos so I credit the reel change to a backlash free environment.

Likely there was some contention with the line angle and how it sits in the reel seat, and leads me to be more mindful of this issue when looking at other rods, especially those with small micro guides. FYI no changes were required to the Lee Smith Custom and in fact is my usual go to rod. Both of my Lee Smith customs also have Spiral wrap guides.
Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: SHC286 on May 07, 2020, 04:52:43 PM
I had this exact thing happen to me just recently. Got a new Falcon low rider for my Ambassadeur, figured itís my favorite reel so it deserves a nice rod. I had the exact same problems you did. I noticed the same thing, steep angle from reel to first guide. So I swapped reels around, put the Ambassadeur on a Lightning Rod and a Revo on the Falcon. All is well now, except I still want to get my favorite reel on a nicer rod. Iíll be looking for one with either a taller first guide or one thatís further away.
Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: caddyjoe77 on May 08, 2020, 08:57:52 AM
That is a valid point Bud. 

To me, you just have to work with the combo's you have.  Every rod is different, with different balance points and reels having different weights.  Sounds like that is what you did with the LSCR.  And, good catch on where the eye is in relation to the first eye on the rod. 

Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: SteveTX on May 08, 2020, 01:02:33 PM
To me, you just have to work with the combo's you have.  Every rod is different, with different balance points and reels having different weights.  Sounds like that is what you did with the LSCR.  And, good catch on where the eye is in relation to the first eye on the rod.
I agree that you have to work with what you have. I haven't had a issue as Bud or SHC286 described with my junk. But I have a bunch of different oddball rods and reels and have found some I like the feel better than others. It took some time moving reels around and matching up line, lure, and rod. 

For me keeping things in perspective as far as what they were designed for (lure weight, lb test line, etc) along with proper adjustments takes a lot of the mysterious backlashes out of the picture.
Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: Sixpack on June 10, 2020, 05:59:11 PM
I love LEWS reels on Duckett rods...
Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: fishdog74 on June 10, 2020, 06:27:35 PM
I love lews


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Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: fishdog74 on June 10, 2020, 06:28:33 PM
Lews  on Lews custom


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Title: Re: Rod and Reel Pairing
Post by: Pferox on June 10, 2020, 06:28:55 PM
I've had my share of rods and reels not playing together.

One of my big problems is with spinning gear that won't balance out the rod right, this makes it very difficult to work it especially when talking about excessively long rods and larger reels.