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General Bass Fishing Discussion => Rods, Reels and Fishing Line => Topic started by: shakeyblack on July 12, 2005, 05:12:24 PM

Title: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: shakeyblack on July 12, 2005, 05:12:24 PM
What's up guys I'm pretty new to bass fishing, I have a couple setups all ready, one spinning real and one wal mart baitcaster.  Today I bought another baitcaster the trion its a 4.3:1 gear ratio.  Now my question to you guys it what is a good not to pricey rod to match this reel.  Also with this gear ratio what is a good use for the reel (IE) flipping, cranks I'm not sure.  Any advice will would be great.  Thanks
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Mike Cork on July 12, 2005, 05:17:56 PM
A 4.3:1 is kinda slow on the gear ration side and that would make for a great crank bait reel.

For pitching I like a very fast reel, pitch the bait to the target and then get it back quick to make another pitch. A slower reel can be a good top water reel as well but if you make a cast and don't like it's position and want to wind in to make another cast it will take you longer.

Honestly anything that you fish that used treble hooks, a slower gear ratio will help in preventing you from horsing the fish in and loosing it.

With all that said, do you have an idea what type of application you will be using it for, it will make it much easier to help out in the rod area. What stores do you have available to buy from? Bass Pro Shops? Wal-Mart? Local tackle dealer?
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 12, 2005, 08:11:27 PM
Personally, I just go for the higher gear ratio reels and discipline myself to bring the bait in slower when I have to...but then that's partially because I fish from shore the majority of the time, so if I make an errant cast, I want to retrieve it as fast as I can and get it back in the water at a more opportune location.

...that's me.

Everyone has to decide for themselves through advice such as this and a lot of on the water time becoming intimate with their gear to finally make intellectually adjusted decisions regarding the gear they choose to use.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Kal-Kevin on July 12, 2005, 08:38:22 PM
I bought two of the Sqworm rods and they are a fair price rod and they do stand behind them. The rods are super light and can take your bait where you want them.
I plan to buy more in the future to replace the ones I got now, and I think you will enjoy them. as for reels I'm a Mitchell reel person and use mainly Spinning reels so will not be able to help you on Baitcasters.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Pferox on July 13, 2005, 03:35:57 AM
Ya know, I prefer the slower reels for large fish, catfishin and such.
I do use em bass fishin also, but not much, I have usually put my slow reels on a medium heavy rod with a fast tip, it makes for a good general purpose combo more than a dedicated bass rod.
IMHO
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: shakeyblack on July 13, 2005, 10:14:04 AM
Next question what is a good rod for this 4.3:1 gear ratio, and what is that gear ratio good for. 
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 13, 2005, 10:21:29 AM
read the post preceeding yours
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: shakeyblack on July 13, 2005, 10:45:09 AM
what I mean is since I am using this for bass fishing what are some good lures to use with this slower ratio. 
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: pegleg on July 13, 2005, 02:59:54 PM
Crank baits and top water baits like Mike said earlyer.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 13, 2005, 03:05:09 PM
I actually don't agree with the "topwater" baits part...especially if you're casting in the wind or to schooling fish, or you see schooling fish half way through retrieving your bait from a location elsewhere so you can try to get in on the feeding frenzy
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Mike Cork on July 13, 2005, 10:02:27 PM
Fish you are right you will want a faster ratio for those aplications. But for fishing bank lines and working certain lures like zara spooks the slower ratios help keep the pace right :-*
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Pferox on July 16, 2005, 07:16:20 PM
Or when that happens, Reel like He##  ~roflmao
That is usually what happens with me when I'm usin one of my Garcias, always seems to cast to the wrong spot.  ~roflmao
I like to use slower reels in the winter months or when they are hitting slow baits, then I can get it down to a virtual crawl, with out thinking about it too much.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 16, 2005, 07:24:42 PM
I've used both high and med speed reels, and overall I prefer the high speed retrieve, I've disciplined myself to be able to reel slow enough when necessary, but Mike I've never had a problem "walkin' the dog" with a spook and a high speed retrieve...it's not the speed as much as the rod/reel action in conjunction with the retrieve that makes a spook do its thing.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Pferox on July 16, 2005, 07:26:38 PM
OH yea, I just got a Schimano reel, and it is the first fast reel I have ever had.
Man that takes alot of gettin used to when you are used to the slower reels.
Most of mine are the 5 to 1 range, but this 6 to one thing is way different.
I can see where you can horse in a fish to the point of makin him dizzy.  ~roflmao
I have yet to catch a big fish on it, what should I expect.
Anything I should keep in mind while reelin it in, like reelin too fast of somethin like that?
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Fishaholic on July 16, 2005, 08:32:20 PM
I don't work the fish in too fast, don't like to horse em in, but if you're fishin in heavy weeds or slop, you've got to get em up pretty fast, or they're gonna get the best of you.

6:1 isn't really a whole lot faster than a 5:1, but a 6.2:1 is a whole lot faster than a 3.7:1 which is what I consider a slow retrieve reel to be.
Title: Re: New Reel Now need Rod!!
Post by: Pferox on July 17, 2005, 08:32:33 AM
I did notice a difference from my other reels tho, the poor armored cats I was catchin were skiin across the water while I was reelin em in.  ~roflmao

I have 12 pound test on it now, and am practicin with it.
When I start usin it for serious lure work, I'm going to have to go to 17 pound or heavier, other wise I will be giving away alot of lures.
Maybe I will try braid, but not sure on that one, I'm not one to use braid on baitcasters.
I know that will cut down on my available line but with all the junk out here, I really don't have much choice.

Wish I could find a 3 to one reel for my heavy salt and cat fishin, but then it would proly take all day to reel it in to check my bait.  lo