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Title: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Bar of Silver on August 14, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
Hi

I have been using power pro braid for my sea bass fishing here in Europe.  I was using .15mm diameter braid tied to mono using an albright knot.  The patchinko surface popper lure I was using is 27g and the line just snapped on the cast.  Has anyone else had similar problems and would you recommend an alternative braid? I have seen some suggesting Stren?
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Broskee on August 14, 2011, 05:45:04 PM
I have had some people tell me that they have had a bad batch of braid too. I have seen this first hand.. So it would be safe to say if you get another round of it you should be ok!
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Bar of Silver on August 14, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
I have had some people tell me that they have had a bad batch of braid too. I have seen this first hand.. So it would be safe to say if you get another round of it you should be ok!

so you say stick to Power Pro
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: OutdoorFrontiers on August 14, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
I've been using PowerPro since it's been available here in the U.S.  On occasion, I have gotten a bad spool of line.  It happens....

So yes, stay with PowerPro, it's good line.  One thing I rarely do is mess around with a leader.  About the only time I ever use a leader with PowerPro is when I'm fishing around Zebra Mussels, which are very sharp and will cut through most line.  The rest of the time, I simply tie direct to the lure and I haven't noticed any loss in my fish catch ratio.

Steve
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Baja Waters on August 14, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
I have a lot of confidence in the Toray Bawo Braid.  I have not had a bad spool.  I use it from 10# to 60#. 

I do like to put a leader of Fluorocarbon and I use the same know as you on lighter lines.  On the heavier lines (20# Fluoro and greatier) I splice the line with hollow braid.  This is a knot-less connection, supper strong and smooth to cast.

Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Creel Limit Zero on August 15, 2011, 10:56:08 AM
When tying the braid to mono, are you using the same size diameter mono?  Braid does slip a little easier than mono, and if you are using different size diameters it could be what is happening.  How does the line of power pro come back.  Is it a clean break, or can you see some memory in the line of where the knot used to be and see that it definitely slipped? 

Also, you say you are using .15 mm braid.  That is equivalent to .06 inch braid diameter, or 2 lb diameter line.  That seems pretty small, I would think you would want something stronger for sea bass.  I would think you would want to use .3 mm braid, which would be 40 lb of drag, then you can attach it directly to the same .3 mm mono - which would be 10 lb test.  This could be the problem, you are using a very small diameter line, tying it to a diameter line that is much larger, and then knot having the drag set to overcome absolutely no stretch.  Try going up to the .3 mm braid and you should probably have better results...
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Pferox on August 16, 2011, 06:20:03 AM
I noticed you are fishing for Sea Bass. Have you had the braid on your rod very long? Have you checked your guides for cracks and imperfections?

I have found that Salt and Brackish conditions are pretty rough on braids, and that they need to be replaced at minimum every second year or so. The salt actually gets inside the braid and abraids from the inside out, more or less.

A damaged guide can give you all kinds of havoc with braid, that actually would be my first suspect instead of a bad spool, although the spool is second on my list.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: joiseystud on August 20, 2011, 04:36:39 AM
Hi

I have been using power pro braid for my sea bass fishing here in Europe.  I was using .15mm diameter braid tied to mono using an albright knot.  The patchinko surface popper lure I was using is 27g and the line just snapped on the cast.  Has anyone else had similar problems and would you recommend an alternative braid? I have seen some suggesting Stren?

When you say the line snapped on the cast... where did it snap?  Did the braided line snap? Did the connection knot to the mono fail?  Did the mono line snap?  Lately I have been using the blood knot for leader connections.  I like it because its strong and the finished knot is pretty small.  My rod has tiny guides so I need the knot small.  On my rods where the guide are larger I have used the uni to uni knot which I think is easier to tie but ends up with a slightly larger profile.

Make sure with either knot you pull them hard together to make sure all the slip is out of the knots before you cut the tag lines.

Your braid shouldnt be snapping on the cast in any case.  If you think your line is defective, return it for a new roll.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on August 20, 2011, 10:27:02 AM
powerpro is outdated.if you search the net you will find plenty of people had snapping issues with it.i've never had it happen.since it is outdated and there are other far superior braids out there i would go with sufix 832.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: ex301p on August 21, 2011, 05:10:23 AM
I have had both the 40lb and 50lb break on the cast and will not buy either of those pound test PP again, however the 30lb and 65lb have been very solid for me. Might have gotten bad spools, but that was enough to kill any confidence I have in there 40 or 50lb.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on August 21, 2011, 08:07:47 AM
powerpro is outdated.if you search the net you will find plenty of people had snapping issues with it.i've never had it happen.since it is outdated and there are other far superior braids out there i would go with sufix 832.

lo Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on September 07, 2011, 12:50:20 AM
mine snapped 2x on a cast this week...30lb moss green
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on September 07, 2011, 09:21:09 AM
How is power pro out dated? I've been using it for several years and never had a problem. I guess I don't understand how it could be out dated? That would be like saying Trilene is out dated because there are other brands to pick from? Or that reaction innovations sweet beaver is out dated because there or copies every where

I understand there are options, that's a great thing! But it doesn't mean the original is bad, or does it?

I have 200% faith in power pro and have pulled monster bass from the thickest of cover and never worried about if I would break it off. If it's snapping on a cast more often than not it's the knot slipping. Not always but a good place to start looking, and that goes for any braid. The first fix is to make sure your doubling the hook or bait eye with your braid as it slips easily.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: kidd on September 07, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
I'm not one to need braid where I fish but I have used powerpro and suffix and that suffix 832 can't touch power pro in any way in my mind.  Saying its outdated has absolutely no merit whatsoever.  You can find a bad review or experience about anything on the internet if you look for it but until you do your own comparisons you're simply using hearsay. 
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on September 10, 2011, 10:59:42 PM
I think calling PP outdated is basically saying" I want to give a reason to not use PP, but cant come up with a legitimate one. 

Come ON! Every braid brand out there claims to be better than all the others because they have some fancy new process for doing the same thing they were doing before.

You know what causes braid to snap?
Abusing it in the spool pulling out backlashes. It will cut itself just like it will cut your fingers when you jerk and tug on it.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: joiseystud on September 15, 2011, 05:03:29 AM
I'm not one to need braid where I fish but I have used powerpro and suffix and that suffix 832 can't touch power pro in any way in my mind.  Saying its outdated has absolutely no merit whatsoever.  You can find a bad review or experience about anything on the internet if you look for it but until you do your own comparisons you're simply using hearsay.
What has been so much better about powerpro than suffix 832?  In my experience there isnt much difference. I had great experiences with both lines. The suffix is a size smaller for the same line capacity though which I like.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: TheLastRodBender on September 23, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
Power Pro is the only braid i use... Never had an issue with it, so if it aint broke, dont fix it (knock on wood)
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Crankbait1007 on September 23, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
Hey we need power pro like we need fireline and spiderwire and suffix(my favorite) come on we donít want just one type of braid that would be bad. and if everyone only bought one type that would kill competition. I myself am a Sufix man but Iíve been using power pro while Iím here in florida catching snook and redfish. Itís good that different people like different line.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bass.junky on September 26, 2011, 07:58:55 AM
Im getting to this thread a little late, but Power Pro has been my go to braid for years. I have tried all the biggies as they became available and liked some, but Power Pro has been my hands down fav. It is the line I will go to 90% of the time when spooling braid.

Sure there have been some changes in braid technology, but I think Power pro got it right the first time
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Broskee on September 28, 2011, 03:37:11 PM
If you go back on what lines have been around, braid is not a new thing my dad said that when he was young he could remember that my grandpa had black braid of somesort. I have no idea who made this either.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on September 28, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
Broskee, that was actually Dacron and though it looks similar it is a totally different product.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on September 28, 2011, 06:47:25 PM
My power pro snapped on Sunday. I stuck my shock in a pile of boulders 15' under water and eventually I had to tie off on the boat and pull forward till it snapped. :)
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: TheLastRodBender on September 30, 2011, 05:20:09 AM
My power pro snapped on Sunday. I stuck my shock in a pile of boulders 15' under water and eventually I had to tie off on the boat and pull forward till it snapped. :)
lo lo


you should get on the line with Power Pro and see if you can do a commercial for them  ;)
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
lo Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning.

why would you laugh at facts.that's why powerpro finally came out with their new braid.it's an 8 strand braid like the better braids out there.they new they were behind on this one.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
How is power pro out dated? I've been using it for several years and never had a problem. I guess I don't understand how it could be out dated? That would be like saying Trilene is out dated because there are other brands to pick from? Or that reaction innovations sweet beaver is out dated because there or copies every where

I understand there are options, that's a great thing! But it doesn't mean the original is bad, or does it?

I have 200% faith in power pro and have pulled monster bass from the thickest of cover and never worried about if I would break it off. If it's snapping on a cast more often than not it's the knot slipping. Not always but a good place to start looking, and that goes for any braid. The first fix is to make sure your doubling the hook or bait eye with your braid as it slips easily.

powerpro digs.it is rough and noisey.search the net and you will find a lot of posts about it snapping.it is a 4 strand braid.the new braids such as diawa,sufix 832 and fireline braid are 8 strand braids.they are rounder,smoother and quieter and they don't dig or snap.sufix 832 is far superior in abrasion resistance to other braids and it sinks instead of floating.this gives it a more direct line to your bait increasing sensitivity.powerpro has even come out with an 8 strand because they had to to compete.i would be willing to try their new braid but the old powerpro is model t technology.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on September 30, 2011, 07:54:22 PM
why would you laugh at facts.that's why powerpro finally came out with their new braid.it's an 8 strand braid like the better braids out there.they new they were behind on this one.
1. I laugh because your post was mostly opinionated
2. I laugh cause you say it was out dated
I can easily say Dodge is out dated because I saw a Durango broke down on the side of the road.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 08:00:36 PM
1. I laugh because your post was mostly opinionated
2. I laugh cause you say it was out dated
I can easily say Dodge is out dated because I saw a Durango broke down on the side of the road.


1)the differences between four and 8 strand braids are facts and not opinions
2)that durango had 300245 miles on it.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on September 30, 2011, 08:03:20 PM
Not the one I saw a couple months ago, actually according to the owner it was still under it's factory warranty when the motor took a crap.

Yet still out dated is your opinion, not a fact. 4 strand, yes fact but out dated is still your opinion.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 08:05:33 PM
Not the one I saw a couple months ago, actually according to the owner it was still under it's factory warranty when the motor took a crap.

Yet still out dated is your opinion, not a fact. 4 strand, yes fact but out dated is still your opinion.

the guy probably never changed his oil.by your thinking a model t is not outdated.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on September 30, 2011, 08:09:52 PM
No sir that would be by your thinking. I never said anything was out dated. So maybe you should stop and scroll. You are the one saying things are outdated.
What I said was "I can easily say Dodge is out dated because I saw a Durango broke down on the side of the road." But, I didn't say it WAS. I it as an example to how simple minded you are sounding.
But if you realllly want me to say something is outdated, I can say your spell check/auto correct is outdated.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 08:30:13 PM
so my spelling stinks.so what?why are you so upset because i said it's outdated?even powerpro knows it is so they came out with an 8 strand braid.i told a shimano rep it was outdated and he didn't argue .he just went back and now two years they make an 8 strand braid.you can't argue that 8 strand braids are not better.4 strand is old technology.if you prefer to use it that's fine with me.i could care less.all i wanted to do was inform others there are much better braids out there.if better ones come along in the future then i will switch to them.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: DBrooke on September 30, 2011, 08:34:32 PM
 ~roflmao

Who is upset? Actually you are my entertainment on this dull evening I am having!
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on September 30, 2011, 08:37:14 PM
It snapped again, luckily I got my lure back. I took all of the line off of the reel, it looked worn, rotted and frayed. The line isnt more than 2 months old either.

I bought a new spool of line today and got rid of that reel.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on September 30, 2011, 08:43:11 PM
~roflmao

Who is upset? Actually you are my entertainment on this dull evening I am having!


here is a summary from a tackle tour test of some 8 strand braids.here is a link to the review.you might want to educate yourself and read it.since it was written sufix 832 is out as are a few other 8 strands.

"If superlines are your game and you're looking for something with a bit more body for better casting performance, any of these three lines will suit your needs. Moving beyond the basic four carriers in the line really adds body and increases handling characteristics with an end product that is more tightly wound and seemingly less abusive with your guides. I for one, will continue to use these products over other four carrier lines and hope to see more products with this type of refinement on the market soon."


http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpremiumbraidroundup.html


Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: joiseystud on October 01, 2011, 09:11:15 AM
I mostly like the Suffix 832 Lo Vis green  I have been using, but notice that the color came off the line really quickly. I dont think this is a big deal though... I still caught a bunch of fish on it even without "low vis" coloring.  Its really strong and a size thinner than other superlines in the same # test rating meaning farther casts and more line on the reel.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: dodgeguy on October 01, 2011, 09:38:11 AM
i color the end black the last 6 feet with permanent marker.all braids lose color.you can get permanent markers in any color to touch up the end.sufix 832 is now made in white also and is available at cabelas.it would be high vis above water and you could make the last 6 feet any color.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Furflys on October 03, 2011, 07:48:59 AM
I have had it break on the cast and also had it break a couple times on the hooks set. I went to the P-line Spectra. Have not had a problem. It was a little hard to find in 65lb test, but when I did find it I bought all 4 rolls.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on October 09, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
My friend just had to cut about 30 feet off of his spinning reel. He broke off 4 baits, I tied one after and that flew off. Bad braid


My last 2 spools have been fine it seems
Using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on November 25, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
just had a live target shiner snap off on a cast. 12 dollar lure which was given to me. Luckily I was able to retrieve it in one try with my other rod.

Time to try another brand
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: saint romain on November 25, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
I've used both PowerPro and Suffix, both are great IMO. I've had bad experiences with both. I have gotten a bad spool of PP. But, every spool of suffix I've used are almost white from about 2 weeks use. With their spools costing almost double, I usually stick to PP (I did splurge once, I won 80$ playing the powerball  ;D). I have reels spooled up with both, I like to use Suffix on my spinning reel but my casting reels are spooled with PP right now.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: PBrussell on November 25, 2011, 06:44:37 PM
Woo. It was getting a little hot in here. I'd like to mention that it's probably not worth getting all  ~rant  ~xyz about some line. Now, I will comment that even if powerpro's braid is 4 strand, that doesn't mean it's model T old and therefore useless. We use "old" proven designs all the time.

How about carburated motors? Do people still use those and build those? Yes? Is the technology older? Yes. Is it useless? No.

I used powerpro for some time without any problems. I recently made the switch to suffix and find it has the same strength offered in powerpro but better castability. The line seems to be a bit smoother. Powerpro is an awesome line however, and I would never dock it for the reasons mentioned above.

Finally, it's probably not worth getting worked up over line. Use what works for you, and if it doesn't, don't laugh at the guy or call him stupid.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassincali on November 25, 2011, 07:06:10 PM
had a bad roll once and sent it back and got a free hat and stickers
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 19, 2011, 08:17:16 AM
Bravo PRussell great post all around.

Older tech? Sure, but so are many things in your house right now that work just fine.


I've used Power Pro since a member here turned me on to it many years ago. Absolutely love it, and it accounts for a dozen eight pound or better fish and my personal best of 12+ and if you seen where I fish you'd never use anything else. Never once have I broke it, and to be honest anyone that does break it on a cast or hook set better look at their knot a lot closer. Just saying. NO ONE wants to be told or believe they tied a bad knot, but it happens.

Flip side, if your convinced that it's bad line  ~roflmao that's why there are so many on the market. State your OPINION and move on ~c~ ~c~
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 19, 2011, 08:45:19 AM
After This thread Started, I did by a Couple of Spools of 832 and while it is quieter and seems maybe a little more limp out of the box, it also seems to have a little less abrasion resistence.  :-\
All for nearly twice the price of PowerPro.  :o

After Our Trip to Falcon after Christmas I will let you know what I think.  But right Now, I can't see any reason to switch.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassmaster3541 on December 19, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
I have 30lb 832 or fishing horny toads and 40lb powerpro on my frog rod. I absolutely think the 832 casts farther, and no doubt in my mind will not cut as easy. When retying alone, I have to put pressure on both ends of the line and cut to get through the 832, powerpro I can hold one end of line and push with the same pair of scissors and it slices through no problem at all.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 19, 2011, 10:25:38 AM
 :-\ Maybe I'm using a different Power Pro than all of you? I have to use a knife that will shave your arm to cut the Power Pro I'm using?  :surrender: :surrender:
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassmaster3541 on December 19, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Mike, I'm not saying I have a problem with the powerpro, i haven't had any problem with it breaking on fish or anything, but in my experience the 832 is way stronger
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 19, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
Mike, I'm not saying I have a problem with the powerpro, i haven't had any problem with it breaking on fish or anything, but in my experience the 832 is way stronger

So Far I have noticed just the opposite as far as abrasion resistance.  But I also Know that what we fish in the south is alot more abrasive than what yall fish up north, so less abrasion resistence will show up quicker.

I will take pics of what we are fishing and the abrasion differences while we are at Falcon next week so everyone can see what I am talking about.  Might even try to do a Video.  :-*
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 19, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
Gotcha


Shawn that would be cool
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Ron Fogelson on December 19, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Abrasion resistance is IMHO much different from the wood filled waters we fish in LA and TX to the waters in the north east with the shells, zebra mussels and the like I would say both Power Pro and other braided lines will excel in different areas.  :-*
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 19, 2011, 11:25:15 AM
One of you Guys with Heavy Vegetation should test it too.  From what I am seeing I think PowerPro will actually cut through the Vegetation better than the suffix 832.  That could be a huge difference in Pad stems.  I know powerPro will saw throught them, but the 832 doesn't seem like it will cut through as well.  :-\
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassmaster3541 on December 19, 2011, 11:57:02 AM
I fish my horny toads with the 832 mostly in all pads, alot of which have a stem at least an inch thick ( im not sure if that is thick for down south but they are for up here, and some are thicker than that) and the 832 cuts through them very well for me. I havent fished the powerpro in pads much, I just got powerpro on one of my rods at the end of this year so the pads were starting to die off, I will definitely give it a try next year when the pads are back on my toad rod, because I can't give a real comparison as to if it cuts through the pads better or worse than the 832, but I know hte 832 does work well for me in the pads
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 19, 2011, 12:03:35 PM
I am just going off the fact that the 832 seems to NOT cut my fingers as bad as powerpro.

With that said I have only had it on a rod for 1 trip before I went back to work and that wound up being mostly a sqarebill and trap bite, so I don't have a whole lot of time with it.

With this trip to Falcon I will have more than enough time when I get back to know the difference in Brush, but there willl be zero vegetation there.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: ex301p on December 21, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
FX2 Braid, end of story! HEHE, I just felt left out of the argument so I thought I would throw in my new favorite braid, FX2 for the win. Okay carry on PP Lovers.  ~roflmao


Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: yak-aholic on December 21, 2011, 07:43:10 PM
I use Sufix Performance Braid. Mostly 10lb. I have had it snap off at my reel a few times, but that's probably due to my yanking on it when I have a backlash. I have been spending a lot of time in the yard trying to reduce the occurence of backlashes. Until that happens, I feel like it's my fault, not faulty line. Other than that, the Sufix has performed flawlessly for me. Landing redfish up to 15 lbs with no problem. I know this is a bass forum and when I have more bass fishing to relate to, I'll use those experiences, but for now it's been almost all salt/brackish.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 22, 2011, 10:07:12 AM
Not a problem on the Red Fish comparison.  Many of us know how hard they pull :shocking: Thanks for commenting.  ~c~
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: TNDiver on December 22, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
I can't wait to hear the test results as I am about to put braid on my reel for the first time.  I am a bit concerned about the line snapping though, especially if I lose an expensive frog lure!
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Stump bumper on December 22, 2011, 11:52:25 AM
The place I have Line snapping issues is the knot between braid and flourocarbon. When I get lazy and don't trim the knot well and it snags the eye on a cast it will snap the knot on me and zing a lure acroos the lake. Last one I lost like that was a pencil popper that went so far up into the woods I didn't even go look for it. lo Why I had a leader on a pencil popper was stupid anyway.

I just took off some power pro that was over a year old and replaced it with Spiderwire Stealth that was on sale at Academy and I would rather have the year old power pro back. I have never seen a braid that tangles and knots as bad as that stealth. ~rant

Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Broskee on December 22, 2011, 12:03:37 PM
I am going to go back to power pro as well, i have had stealth for a while and it hasn't impressed me much!!!
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 22, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
I can't wait to hear the test results as I am about to put braid on my reel for the first time.  I am a bit concerned about the line snapping though, especially if I lose an expensive frog lure!

If you use 50 pound PP you won't have any issues at all with the line snapping.  ;)
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: TNDiver on December 22, 2011, 06:33:12 PM
a follow up question may be what knot is everyone using to tie the braid to mono or flouro???  That also could be the problem.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Stump bumper on December 22, 2011, 08:11:44 PM
In serveral theads seems everyone perfers the uni to uni and I have started using that one also since the J knot will grab the eye more often.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: OutdoorFrontiers on December 22, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
The few times that I use a leader, I use a Uni-Uni knot.  I'm sure you can find a diagram on how to tie it.

Steve
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: joeyblueblood on December 27, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
I've been using the Albright knot to connect flouro to braid. so far, so good. you tube it.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: joeyblueblood on December 27, 2011, 01:21:31 PM
How is power pro out dated? I've been using it for several years and never had a problem. I guess I don't understand how it could be out dated? That would be like saying Trilene is out dated because there are other brands to pick from? Or that reaction innovations sweet beaver is out dated because there or copies every where

I understand there are options, that's a great thing! But it doesn't mean the original is bad, or does it?

I have 200% faith in power pro and have pulled monster bass from the thickest of cover and never worried about if I would break it off. If it's snapping on a cast more often than not it's the knot slipping. Not always but a good place to start looking, and that goes for any braid. The first fix is to make sure your doubling the hook or bait eye with your braid as it slips easily.
Mike, what knot are you using for braid, if you don't mind telling us? thx
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on December 27, 2011, 04:50:43 PM
In my case when I found the lure the line was still attached, I use the line to bring it back in when snagging it with my other rod
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 28, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
Someone that is breaking line on a cast, any line, I would recommend they look at their knot.

In my case when I found the lure the line was still attached, I use the line to bring it back in when snagging it with my other rod

In this case I would look at your guides and reel to make sure there isn't an issue. No matter what line you're using. It shouldn't break. If it did and did it on a regular basis, do you think said company would still be in business ~roflmao Even Ande still makes line and it still catches record setting fish.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on December 28, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
Mike, what knot are you using for braid, if you don't mind telling us? thx

Believe it or not I call the knot I use a "No Knot"  ~roflmao Because if you miss any step it will fall apart in your hands. I have searched the web for it and never came across it. My old man taught it to me many many many moons ago. Laurie and I are going to do a video with me tying it as it's difficult to understand. The beauty of this knot is that it doesn't cut into it's self. Once tied correctly you can actually slide it up and down the line. We are both under the weather right now but look for it after the first of the year.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: yak-aholic on December 28, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
Definitely looking forward to seeing this "No-Knot" knot. Let us know when you get the vid up.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on December 31, 2011, 04:44:30 PM
Lost 2 lures back to back...i pulled all of the line off. I wanted to throw my rod and reel in the lake..luckily a kid in a kayak got one back for me and tried to get the other. I have him ten bucks for his efforts.

Officially done with spectra on my main setups. I have some on a spinning reel I'm not concerned about and two boxes of 40lb sitting that I'll use on some loaner equipment.

At least it allowed me to do some reel cleaning



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Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on December 31, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
I use the knot mike uses and I think it is officially called the sandiego jam knot. ??
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassincali on December 31, 2011, 09:01:24 PM
i use the very first knot i ever learned the plain loop knot the same one you first learn to tie on the eagle claw hooks with line on them.  i have never had braid break or the knot come loose
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Mike Cork on January 01, 2012, 04:14:25 PM
I use the knot mike uses and I think it is officially called the sandiego jam knot. ??

I thought the same thing Shawn. Had a pro tie it for me one time and he did it a little different? So I don't know if it was his "version" or what LOL

Hoping to work this before too long. I'm excited about doing the video stuff for the site. Have lots of ideas for things to put up :-*
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on January 04, 2012, 06:57:12 PM
Trying out 832 65lb braid now. I hope it works for me

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Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: BamaCoast on January 04, 2012, 09:53:52 PM
I have purchased several bad spools of power pro however I am still using it. Dodgeguy makes some very good observations and I believe I will give the Sufix a try.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on January 04, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
up to 50lbs is 10 dollars at dicks for 150yds and 300 is 19.99, which they had 65 in...until the 7th
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassn1 on January 05, 2012, 06:29:31 AM
This past year I tied on some Suffix 8-32. It performed fine within the limited amount of use I put it through. This year I will be using both PP Super Slick and Suffix 8-32. They both will be put to the test this year.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: -Shawn- on January 05, 2012, 07:18:13 AM
I still don't see where so many BAD spools of POwerPro have came from.  I have beeen using it since it first hit walmart shelves a LONG time ago and I have NEVER got a bad spool.   :-\

OK I have now put quite a few hours with 832 and other than being quieter going through the guides it does not have many advantages over regular PowerPro.  It is actually Stiffer and remains so after use.  It looses it's color even faster than PowerPro.

I am still testing, but so far, Saying that 832 is far sperior to powerPro would be incorrect.
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: bassn1 on January 05, 2012, 07:24:29 AM
I still don't see where so many BAD spools of POwerPro have came from.  I have beeen using it since it first hit walmart shelves a LONG time ago and I have NEVER got a bad spool.   :-\

My experience as well. 

I am still testing, but so far, Saying that 832 is far sperior to powerPro would be incorrect.

I am testing both because 1. one may be superior 2. Newer technology.
Make no mistake, I still have my 1500 yd. spools of original PP as a failsafe.
Title: Re: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Diggy_ on January 05, 2012, 07:29:42 AM
I still don't see where so many BAD spools of POwerPro have came from.  I have beeen using it since it first hit walmart shelves a LONG time ago and I have NEVER got a bad spool.   :-

OK I have now put quite a few hours with 832 and other than being quieter going through the guides it does not have many advantages over regular PowerPro.  It is actually Stiffer and remains so after use.  It looses it's color even faster than PowerPro.

I am still testing, but so far, Saying that 832 is far sperior to powerPro would be incorrect.

You may want to try the new pp slick 8 if you are a fan. Feels nicer than the 832 from the initial feel. I've only tried the 832 as of yesterday so I can't really say something positive yet. The pp equivalent is more than the suffix in price.

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Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: paco on December 01, 2013, 10:39:12 AM
Time for my 2 cents worth concerning 30 lb power pro braid! I lost about 10 lures over a two night period due to my brand new 30 lb test moss green line snapping when I would jerk the line to set the hook when I would have a strike. I ran into the mother load of snook, attacking ballyhoo from under a lit pier. At first I thought it was their sharp gill plates cutting the line. Then I found one of the lost lures floating by me and upon retrieval noticed it still had 6 or so feet of line attached. Mind you, this is brand new power pro. I would feel for any abrasions prior to tying on the lure, and I'm sure the line had no nicks. Now I'm suspecting that if the line has any slack, when jerked to set the hook, it will easily snap at the point where the slack becomes taunt. Ended up catching 17 snook, and lost some 10 lures (thank god I had my tackle box with me!) to the line breaking. Really shook me up, at one point I lost two lures in a row trying to set the hook. I use the uni knot and know for a fact the line was not always breaking at the knot. And think of all those poor fish with lures in their months, I am dismayed that my power pro has failed me and I am going to test it today on land. Thanks!
   
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: SonofDitka on December 01, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
I have no love of PP after spooling it on a reel this summer and had the privilege of seeing the line snap on casts. I practically tore it off my reel afterwards and replaced it with Suffix 832. An expensive day on the water that one...
Title: Re: Power pro braid snapping
Post by: Pferox on December 01, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
Last year I put 30lb PP on a 8000 series surf reel for my buddy. He bought 2 spools of some kind of green color on clearance from Bass Pro or WalMart, not sure which one it was, they were 500 yard spools, never saw them like that before.

It took almost those two spools to fill his reel, it lasted less than 3 months in the salt before it started to break on casts, I checked the rod it was on for nicks in the guides, bad spots on the reel, nothing. I went through that whole spool and was able to pull it apart by hand every 25 feet or so, till today, I still don't know what caused the problems, it was rotten all the way down to the bottom of the reel. This time around we just put 25lb Bullbuster mono on it, it is way too expensive to fill that reel every few months with braid.

The only time I had seen that kind of breakage down into the spool like that was when using straight Dacron braid, but that was usually after having it on a reel for a year or more. The mono has lasted all season, with regular trimmings, etc, I will probably have to re-spool it before spring, but it is still serviceable.

I have had 20lb 832 on a couple reels almost a year now and it has held up very well in the salt, I'm using them on spinning gear, don't know if that makes a difference. Like Shawn said, 832 does fade quickly, but then I really don't worry about that too much.