i do not own either, but my buddy has three bb1n somethings. just do see just how darn good these thing throw, we put some 6 lb. mono on one, and mounted it on a medium light rod, and i could throw an 1/8 maribou crappie jig a mile. he also has a 400 dollar shimano, that does not even come close to the performance of the lew's. his lews were in the 180 range. if i ever have money to buy an new reel, i would have to look at a lew's.