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Zillion help!
« on: March 28, 2016, 07:29:33 AM »

Zillion TWS vs Zillion TWS SV

Need help guys!

Which spool should I worry about for what. Say I wanted to convert over 6 reels

(2) crankbaits 5:1

(2) jerkbaits 6:1

(1) top water 7:1

(1) spinner, buzz, Chatterbaits 7:1

Which spool for which? I thought SV was for Finesse apps only but now I'm learning it depends on which reel its on for finesse???

I'm leaning to just going all SV and call it a day. This is the point where you start over thinking and second guessing yourself... bass fishing. Lol

Appreciate any and all feedback.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 07:32:01 AM »

I would go all SV since there is nothing you cant do with that spool. Plus, the frame and build is more user friendly being better to palm. Me personally, I dont care for the TWS system, its more hype than anything. I would just get a bunch of SV103's, its basically the same as the OG Zillions.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 07:37:14 AM »

TWS doesn't make or break the purchase for me. Have a couple Tats which I didn't like at first but they grew on me lol mainly didn't like the body/palm ability. But that was also in conjunction with the omen gen1 reel seats. Watched a video of a guy casting a weightless trick worm with the zillion SV 40 yards without thumbing the spool and no back lash, in my head I was like SOLD!!! Lol
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2016, 07:49:00 AM »

The SS sv103?? Confused lol

Also looks like the zillion SV is the Tatula CT frame?? Am I right or wrong?
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2016, 07:59:51 AM »

The SS sv103?? Confused lol

Also looks like the zillion SV is the Tatula CT frame?? Am I right or wrong?
The SV103 is the old school zillion frame with an SV spool minus the twing system.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2016, 08:04:16 AM »

And that sounds like a win^
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2016, 08:10:48 AM »

Oh so the SV 103 not the SS SV103. The non SS has the oval guide that's what you guys are talking about? If I just stick with zillion vs/ zillion SV I wouldn't be as confused as a already am lmaooooo
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2016, 08:12:01 AM »

Actually the oval guide one is off the table. Not available in gear ratios I want. The SS is and it's right around same price as Zillion
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2016, 09:13:26 AM »

Better off getting the Zillion SV TWS than the SS SV
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2016, 09:20:36 AM »

Better off getting the Zillion SV TWS than the SS SV
Sold! But honestly SV across the board? Would I be better non SV for any of the listed applications?
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2016, 09:27:41 AM »

Sold! But honestly SV across the board? Would I be better non SV for any of the listed applications?

No. Trust me, there aint nothin you cant do with them. If I could get SV spools for my TD Zillions they would all have them.  lo
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2016, 12:03:52 PM »

Sv spool is the best that Daiwa makes. No sense in settling for second place when you can win outright.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2016, 12:30:33 PM »

Sv spool is the best that Daiwa makes. No sense in settling for second place when you can win outright.

That's why I don't understand the pricing is the same for both zillions
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2016, 10:15:50 PM »

Learned today that the Zillion TW is being phased out by the SV model. Doesn't make sense seeing as how tat and tat type R, tat CT and Tat CT type R are all still being made providing options.

Zillion SV has a smaller than normal TWS. Smaller than its Non SV counterpart.

And it's roughly 40 yards of line difference between the 2.

I'm thinking for my self grab 2 regulars in 5:1 and SV in the rest.

Also Steez is coming out soon with the TWS.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2016, 06:51:03 AM »

In my opinion the Zillion TWS became a flop because it was based off the Tatula. So where was the greatness of the Zillion? To me it was lost in that model, much like Shimano had with the Curado G series. What I dont understand is why they redesigned the Zillion, but then also let the Tatula share the same frame AGAIN!? To me it almost defeats the purpose to buy the Zillion. In reality, the main difference is the SV spool, other than that they are dang near identical. The Steez going TWS is interesting, and looks good, but I still dont get the TWS hype, and really see not a big enough advantage the extra moving parts. I see what they are trying to do, but I still just dont get why they did it the way they did. Smart thing was coming back with the OG Zillion style in the SV103.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2016, 09:22:36 AM »

What do I know I've been a Shimano guy for over a decade lol just started getting into Daiwas stuff lol you telling me a 103 is a OG zillion is like saying hey the alphabet has a 'T' in it. Lmaooo now if you were to say the Chronarch E is a OG curado with white paint I'd know exactly what you mean.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2016, 06:28:05 PM »

Cabelas has the Zillion TW on clearance  for $250 and I have gift cards. Is there any difference between this and the JDM version. I'm talking strictly the TW not the SV
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2016, 08:59:52 AM »

The JDM has magseal (not a fan) and better bearings. I would say you are better off with the USDM version. You can always get a set of Hedgehog Studio bearings later on.
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 09:39:01 AM »

Cabelas has the Zillion TW on clearance  for $250 and I have gift cards. Is there any difference between this and the JDM version. I'm talking strictly the TW not the SV

Look at overstock 232....But you can't beat gift cards....
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2016, 11:02:14 AM »

I just recently got my first Daiwa. Took LMG's advice. Trust me Daiwa's naming convention for stuff is absurdly ridiculously stooopid. Took me forever to figure out what spools actually fit on my reel. :-(

All I can say is good luck! lol
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2016, 12:05:20 PM »

American Legacy has em for $180 lol didn't pull trigger yet.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2016, 12:57:30 PM »

American Legacy has em for $180 lol didn't pull trigger yet.

I read that they do 20 shipping unless over 200...Pays to buy in multiples.  ;D
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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2016, 12:59:15 PM »

I read that they do 20 shipping unless over 200...Pays to buy in multiples.  ;D
free shipping from their eBay store :/

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Re: Zillion help!
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2016, 12:33:56 PM »

http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/daiwa/low-profile-casting-reels/reg0000196.html

Technique specific rods... Now reels Carolina Rig reel lmao obviously a ton of sarcasm. If I end up doing a full Shimano > Daiwa conversion I'm definitely getting this as a C Rig is one my favorite techniques. Plus this thing looks cool!
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2016, 12:35:43 PM »

Its got clicking drag!  ::)
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