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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #300 on: September 11, 2018, 03:25:10 PM »

How about a pflueger reel used in saltwater??? Who knows, maybe if they changed the shape of the aluminum it wouldn't corrode! Ha!

Needless to say it but this one went into the trash. Can't fix it when the parts inside are dissolving into dust and rust!

Talk about using a reel until it grinds to a halt! This is it!

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #301 on: September 11, 2018, 03:32:47 PM »

I think this one is a pflueger trion. Complaint was thumb bar was not engaging from cast mode. Reel stayed in cast mode.

Opened her up and found this:



Problem: customer opened reel and tried to service himself. And when reassembling the reel he put this one spring in upside down. This spring has a long end and a short end. The long end goes into the frame and is designed to keep spring perpendicular to the frame. The short side allows the spring to move around and get out of place as seen here.

A quick fix. Turn spring over and close up reel. Next...
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #302 on: September 11, 2018, 04:02:26 PM »

Here's a strange one I found in a thrift store. And left in the thrift store... don't even know what this gimmick reel is. But it has a range finder? Yeah right!






I would have bought that just to tell folks, "Hey, look at this chit here..."

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #303 on: September 12, 2018, 06:25:24 AM »

Here's a strange one I found in a thrift store. And left in the thrift store... don't even know what this gimmick reel is. But it has a range finder? Yeah right!







Is that a vintage St. Croix Fishing Machine?
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #304 on: September 12, 2018, 12:08:17 PM »

Is that a vintage St. Croix Fishing Machine?

Yes it is Chris! I just looked it up and will post some info on this historic little reel...

Here is a Shimano Curado 200E7 I just finished up. This one came in the door in pieces and missing all parts on main drive shaft as in no handle, no drag star, nothing. And the threads on the main drive shaft were destroyed by the owner.

This person already knew he was going to be into this reel for some parts, so he opted to just do a quick fix rather than a C&L on the reel, but I had to go deep into this reel so it got some good lubrication inside even if it did not get a deep cleaning. It got a Q tip cleaning just so I could work on it.

It had a rusty spool bearing, and a destroyed AR pawl too. Another attempt at DIY at home and the big fail. The owner was not a happy camper bringing us this reel driving all the way from Lake Wales 2 hours away just to get his reel fixed.

He even opted for a used handle rather than new... but she looks good now! And is as smooth as ever...



Next on the bench is a Shimano Chronarch MGL 150XG

Just came out of the sonic cleaner... nothing wrong with this one. Just dirty and needing a good C&L.

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #305 on: September 12, 2018, 12:49:22 PM »

I found a little bit online about the old St. Croix telescoping rod and reel setup... it dates from around 1976 and sold new for about $25.00.

Here is one person's description of how the range finder worked:

"In case anybody really wants to know, the depth/range finder
is pretty simple to use in theory.
Place the on and off lever in the off position, cast your line out
to the distance you want, let it sink to the depth you want, and move
the rangefinder lever to the on position. The reel will remember that setting. If you want to change locations, simply move the lever to the off position and repeat the steps over again."

Another blogger had this to say about it:

The St. Croix / Cosmo Fishing Machine
File this under " Cool Flea Market Finds " , or at least cool to me.

I had a chance to visit an extremely large flea market last weekend , and managed to pick up this cool little telescopic rod/reel combo. I've honestly never seen one before and was pretty intrigued. I could have wasted my five bucks on something else , but I just had to add this little guy to my collection.

There isn't really a ton of info online about these things , past expired eBay auctions and snippets of conversation buried in fishing and antiques forums , but I did manage to find out that they were made sometime around 1976. Mine is a Cosmo brand , but apparently they were also sold under the St. Croix name at some point. It's kind of a chicken or egg conundrum for me right now , since I'm not entirely sure whether St. Croix made them for Cosmo or Cosmo made them for St. Croix , though I suspect the latter.

Regardless , it's a neat little rod and reel. I would certainly rather take my chances with this 5 foot rod and surprisingly smooth reel , than I would with it's main (and more successful) competitor , the Ronco Popeil Pocket Fisherman. It kind of blows my mind that I've never seen one of these before , but I assume it was only made for a year or two in an attempt to steal some of Ronco's market , and then discarded after it couldn't compete with legendary late night infomercial king , Ron Popeil.







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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #306 on: September 12, 2018, 12:52:01 PM »






Kewl beans. That one is in really good shape. Would seem to be a nice little collector's item.
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #307 on: September 12, 2018, 03:06:12 PM »

Did the owner of the 200 E7 by any chance try to claim "my buddy swore he knew what he was doing"?

Just curious. I mentioned before that I've heard that so many times when someone dropped off a baggie of gun parts that I lost count.

Actually, the only person who was ever honest with me was my best friend, because he knew I'd call BS if he told me he let someone else work on his gun.
Speaking of, need to call another guy and let him know I've got the time to come C&L his collection. I'll get to play with a couple MGs!

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #308 on: September 13, 2018, 03:43:10 PM »

SHC I don't do front counter so I don't usually talk to the customers and hear their reel stories. So I have no idea what his story is. All I know is he would like for us to fix it for him for free and he was bitchin' about all the parts he had to replace and how much they cost.

But he is the one who took the reel apart and lost everything so he should not be venting our way for what he did. And it cost him $82.50 even after we cut the price of 2 parts in half for him. The drag star and handle were most expensive parts he lost. A new handle alone is $40.

The chronarch came out like new... I'm into a Stradic 2500Fi right now, one of my favorites of all time.

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #309 on: September 13, 2018, 04:05:07 PM »

I believe that. If you recall, I never did any gunsmithing for profit, that's a legal gray area without asking permission from the government, and dark gray at that.
I had someone accuse me of trying to rip them off, and I was like, "Dude. You bought the parts I told you to get, and paid me a box of donuts."
I don't even like donuts.

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #310 on: September 14, 2018, 01:01:54 PM »

I believe that. If you recall, I never did any gunsmithing for profit, that's a legal gray area without asking permission from the government, and dark gray at that.
I had someone accuse me of trying to rip them off, and I was like, "Dude. You bought the parts I told you to get, and paid me a box of donuts."
I don't even like donuts.

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This is off topic, but dude, seriously, who doesn't like donuts? lo
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #311 on: September 14, 2018, 01:27:37 PM »

Lol! True enough Chris! I think he was expressing more dissatisfaction with being paid in doughnuts... I know I would. Now if some customer paid me in sushi I'd be quite happy!

And no off topic in an open thread! Take it any where you want to Chris!

Just finishing up another Shimano stradic 2500Fi... another DIY fail at home...

First thing... don't spray your reels with a water hose after using them in salt water! The water pressure simply pushes the salt and water deeper into the reel causing even more problems! Wipe the reels off with Pledge lemon cleaner!

Shimano does not recommend spraying any of their reels with pressure water hoses!

And yet just about every single customer who walks into our shop with salt water reels ALWAYS tells us how they took great care of their reels and sprayed them off after every outing.

So how did this idea of rinsing reels get started anyway???

Regardless, this reel required some new bearings, replaced missing parts, and repair broken spool spring, and put the line guide roller parts back on reel in right places the customer messed up at home...

This is the order of parts I found in line guide... darn near completely backwards. This is a good way to lose a fish and get line caught in the roller when least welcome!



A nasty rusted up bearing in line guide roller:



And according to the schematic I am missing RD6684:



New parts in stock on near 15 year old reel:



Back in correct order and polarity for reassembly:



Next, do you know how many people work on spinning reels and never touch the drag washers? I always check and lube them. This reel has never been serviced so these drag washers have not been lubricated since new nearly 15 years ago. So that is why it appears white and nearly dry...



One last thing... a broken clicker spring inside spool:



I had to pull used parts from an old spool:



Repaired:



And another successful smooth stradic overhaul... I wish this one were mine!



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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #312 on: September 14, 2018, 01:33:13 PM »



And another successful smooth stradic overhaul... I wish this one were mine!





I know I loved my Stradic back in the day. Can't remember the model, but it was the white one with wood handle, circa early 2000's
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #313 on: September 14, 2018, 01:41:39 PM »

Usually an FG or an FH Chris. My favorites are the FH's and Fi's... I keep some in my personal collection of reels at all times and always looking for more...

This is an old FG, did it look like this one or the next one an FH?





These reels and this era is when the stradics earned their reputation!



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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #314 on: September 14, 2018, 01:48:46 PM »

You jynxed me on the stradics Chris! Now I have 4 more to do today... the boss just dumped 4 more rush reels on me...

Fortunately we have someone doing the breakdown and cleaning so all I gotta do is reassemble them...



Just taking a look at this old reel, now 20 to 25 years old and it looks like brand spanking new inside... hardly used. Hard to believe.

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« Reply #315 on: September 14, 2018, 01:59:15 PM »



Just taking a look at this old reel, now 20 to 25 years old and it looks like brand spanking new inside... hardly used. Hard to believe.



Mine was an FH, judging by those pics.

OOHHH, would love to have that one. Making do with a NASCI right now, maybe someday...
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #316 on: September 14, 2018, 02:49:38 PM »

I legit don't like donuts. Too much sugar, too sticky, ooey gooey.
I'll eat 'em, but when it comes to junk food I'd rather have a bag of gummi bears.

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« Reply #317 on: September 15, 2018, 12:36:01 PM »

I was over here thinking "Stradic... what's so special about those? I've got one in a desk drawer I don't use..."
DOH! Syncopate! Walmart special. Still damn nice for a $30 reel. Got mine at Dirt Cheap, missing part #3869, but still works just fine. The anti-reverse pawl doesn't rotate out of the way as fast as it should without it, so you hear a light click during the first revolution.
Good little light duty freshwater reel. And I'm one of the few people I believe who's a fan of the quickfire trigger. Also like how on this little reel, the bale does slam shut, but has a more subdued closure.

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« Reply #318 on: September 18, 2018, 02:45:03 PM »

A $30 stradic??? Unheard of! The curado and stradic are probably some of shimano's best selling reels of all time.

I like the quick fire spinning reels too. Presently I am looking for one for one of our members here who um is not fond of spinning reels and having the bail always return to the same top position would benefit him greatly in teaching his muscles operation memory he can transfer to regular spinning reels later on.

As to your syncopate...

7 Best Shimano Spinning Reel

1.Shimano Thunnus 6000 CI4 Saltwater Baitrunner Spinning Reel. ...
2.Shimano Stradic FK Spinning Reel, C5000XG. ...
3.Shimano Spirex RG Spinning Reel. ...
4.Shimano Sienna Spin Reel. ...
5.Shimano Syncopate 1000 Front Drag Spin Reel. ...
6.Shimano Curado E Reels. ...
7.Shimano Sahara Spinning Fishing Reel.
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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #319 on: September 18, 2018, 03:16:03 PM »

A $30 stradic??? Unheard of! The curado and stradic are probably some of shimano's best selling reels of all time.

I like the quick fire spinning reels too. Presently I am looking for one for one of our members here who um is not fond of spinning reels and having the bail always return to the same top position would benefit him greatly in teaching his muscles operation memory he can transfer to regular spinning reels later on.

As to your syncopate...

7 Best Shimano Spinning Reel

1.Shimano Thunnus 6000 CI4 Saltwater Baitrunner Spinning Reel. ...
2.Shimano Stradic FK Spinning Reel, C5000XG. ...
3.Shimano Spirex RG Spinning Reel. ...
4.Shimano Sienna Spin Reel. ...
5.Shimano Syncopate 1000 Front Drag Spin Reel. ...
6.Shimano Curado E Reels. ...
7.Shimano Sahara Spinning Fishing Reel.
Is your list in a specific order or just a random list of what you consider the best Shimano spinning reels?

Having owned both the Spirex and the Sahara (as well as the Stradic) I would personally rate the Sahara as a better real than the Spirex (and the Stradic the best of the 3).

I did like the double-paddle handle on the Spirex better though so I ended up buying some from Shimano and putting them on my Stradics and Saharas. Just never was a fan of the self-centering bail concept.

It's all personal opinion though. As they say  "one man's trash is another man's treasure".

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #320 on: September 18, 2018, 03:27:23 PM »

I did a google search of shimano's most popular reels. The list surprised me too. And it does appear to be in order.

Some of those older Sahara's are built like tanks. I still have a couple myself in use after 20 years. Works better now that it is broken in good.
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« Reply #321 on: September 18, 2018, 09:10:36 PM »

I actually love and hate the self centering concept.
It seems sloppy, but convenient for the next cast. Especially great with the quickfire system. But I hate the way it seems to beat the reel.

I'll also point out this budget beast...
Shimano's TX4000. I LOVE IT. Wish I hadn't given mine to my oldest boy. Come to find out, he loves it too.
He took it with him working on the road, he's somewhere around Sioux City right now. Making decent money, decent enough he let his friend talk him into dropping about $250 on a nicer rod and reel combo.
He took it back, and put that $3 thrift store combo back in his truck.

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Re: Reel Chronicles...
« Reply #322 on: September 21, 2018, 02:51:12 PM »

If it works it works SHC!

This past weekend I overhauled a new one to me... an old Daiwa A-160X spinning reel now about 40 years old.







This reel is built like a tank and will out last me by a long shot. It is a simple straight forward reel with very few internal parts...



Bail parts:



One issue is this reel does not have a replaceable pinion gear. In this reel it is a pressed or hammered in part in the rotor.



Rotor held on with one steel clip:



Another issue with this reel is it is one of those clicker reels. So I found some old outboard fuel line and cut me a little rubber bumper I added to the lever to reduce the clicking some to make it less annoying.





Another thing built to last forever is this old Daiwa teflon drag washer system...



Got the reel rebuilt and slapped some line on it and I put it on a $150 custom Kistler 7' spinning rod and tried it out. Found the speed is really slow like a 3 or a 4 speed ratio. Definitely a power reel. Lots of drag. Well built and precision reel.

Gonna keep this one for now...
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