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Line is just as important
« on: May 13, 2017, 02:43:30 AM »

There is ton of info on what rod or reel to use for many different techniques. but what about line, is it not as important if not more.
Bottoms baits require a sensitive rod but which line. Well that depends on cover or lack of. Grassy cover and you can never go wrong with a good heavy braid. That one is easy but what about a ledge or a bluff in clearer water. You say thats easy but not as easy as you might think. A ledge or shellbed where you need a long cast need something stiff to feel the bite but limp enough for castabiity. My choice is a good flouro but in the 12 -15 lb. class that gives you castabiity and the sensitivity you need. It also gives you the durability as it scrapes along rough terrain.
 Now a bluff needs to be tackled differently. The baits needs to drop straight down the bluff. Flouro is too stiff for this but thank goodness copolys have come along. They are limper so the bait will drop straight down the bluff on a slack line and the sensitivity is not as importatant as the jump in the line will tell you he has it. but you also have the durability of flouro as your line slides down the rocks.
 Moving baits are a different  subject but can be covered easier. With a more parabolic rod all lines can be used but some techniques require specific lines.
 Your frogs, swimbaits, chatterbaits, and buzzbaits in grass again are going to require something to get the fish out fast and I use 30lb. braid except on frogs then I go up to 50-80lb.
 Cranks I like a mono most of the time for the stretch it gives you but if you need extra depth flouro wil get the lure down an extra foot or two depending on how deep it runs.
 If running moving baits through trees then it is always copoly in 20lb. for me.  It has some stretch, durability, and the power to get the fish away from the trees.
Topwaters are the easiest for me. Braid for weeds and grass and copoly for everthing else. Mono will work but I have isues with mono being too limp and wrapping up in the lure.

These are just my thoughts and experiences.
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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2017, 09:46:42 AM »

Nice job  :)
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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2017, 11:52:04 AM »

What copolymer do you like? I am using kastking 10#, and although I like their fortis braid, I am not impressed with their copolymer. I have broken off on hooksets and fish that are only 1.5 to 2 lbs, and this after I retied. I have lost larger fish that have been pulling drag fine and then snap, so I know that I don't have the drag too tight. I'm a bit frustrated.

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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2017, 12:22:32 PM »

What copolymer do you like? I am using kastking 10#, and although I like their fortis braid, I am not impressed with their copolymer. I have broken off on hooksets and fish that are only 1.5 to 2 lbs, and this after I retied. I have lost larger fish that have been pulling drag fine and then snap, so I know that I don't have the drag too tight. I'm a bit frustrated.

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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2017, 02:22:23 PM »

YoZuri for CoPly here as well. It's really hard to beat the quality and performance.

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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2017, 02:46:57 PM »

P-line flouroclear is tough stuff brought a log off the bottom with 12# test

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2017, 02:54:35 PM »

Thanks guys. Zippy, is that P-line straight flouro or a copolymer?

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2017, 05:18:34 PM »

Co-polymer

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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2017, 06:10:14 PM »

I'm lost as to how flouro wouldn't fall straight down a bluff ,or anywhere for that matter?
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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2017, 11:03:52 PM »

I have found that flouro has a bigger bow in the line and pulls the lure away from the structure or cover.
That is why trollers use Mono or braid as a main line and only have a leader in Flouro.
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2017, 05:26:09 AM »

i would disagree with the qualities of flouro.. but to each his own
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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2017, 06:14:29 PM »

i would disagree with the qualities of flouro.. but to each his own
Xs 2. I find line to be a very personal topic and most folks are locked in solid on their favorites, me too. lo ;)
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Re: Line is just as important
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 09:58:27 PM »

Great wright up. Very spot on. I use P Line copoly. Being that it is inexpensive I have a spool of every size from 10lb to 20 lb. As far as flurocarbon I only use Seagar InvisX 12lb all the way up to 25lb depending on the application and water color. I find it easier to cast and flip with it over other name brands. Now to braid. Probably 80 percent of my reels are spooled with braid. Power Pro 40lb or 65lb and I attach a leader to most of them. The reason why is most lines are expensive especially Seagar. Braid doesn't degrade like mono, fluro, or  copolymer. I can spool 4 to 5 reels by doing this with the same amount of line that would only spool 2 without using a braided main line.
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