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Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« on: October 09, 2017, 10:26:17 AM »

Most of the water I fish, I throw a SK 5XD & 6XD. Currently I am using a BP Pro Qualifier 7.1 reel, a Duckett 7.3 MH or 7.0 M Baitcaster, 12lb P-Line fluorocarbon. I just don't think I am getting enough distance to get the lures down on the bottom quick enough in 6-10 ft of water. I have adjusted the brake down to as low as 3 and almost no tension to the point of backlash if I don't thumb the spool. Also use reel magic 2-4 times per day.

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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 10:28:47 AM »

You try cleaning and relubing the spool bearings?
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 10:34:58 AM »

Recently cleaned and oiled.


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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 10:43:56 AM »

OK, what are you doing to clean and lube them, and what lube? Also, what distance are you getting, and what is the goal?
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 04:31:38 PM »

OK, what are you doing to clean and lube them, and what lube? Also, what distance are you getting, and what is the goal?
Denatured alcohol and a reel oil I purchased from the man in Nashville that has been taking care of all my reels...says it's out of NASA
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 07:31:21 AM »

I don't know what Matt uses, I use white gas to clean. You might want to send the reel to Cork's Reel Service, Pro Reel or Matt(LMG) and have it super tuned, it's money well spent!!
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 09:03:07 AM »

Denatured alcohol and a reel oil I purchased from the man in Nashville that has been taking care of all my reels...says it's out of NASA

OK, but what kind of distance are you getting? Whats your goal?
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 09:18:13 AM »

OK, but what kind of distance are you getting? Whats your goal?
Cannot honestly tell you the distance but using the DT6 I cannot feel it hit the bottom until 1/2 way back to the boat. When fishing with a guide he was getting 1/3 more distance than I was!


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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 12:05:56 PM »

Cannot honestly tell you the distance but using the DT6 I cannot feel it hit the bottom until 1/2 way back to the boat. When fishing with a guide he was getting 1/3 more distance than I was!


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Try changing the spool bearings to a ZR bearing to get some more performance out the reel. Also, check your brake settings. Maybe you have too much brakes, or maybe not the right line/rod combination. What was the guide using? Sometimes its not always the reel, but it can be depending on the situation. Ive used cheaper reels that have out cast higher end reels out the box. It can happen.
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 12:16:58 PM »

Tie on some 50# braid and dunk the reel in the water every few cast, that's what I do, LMG loves it  ~roflmao

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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 12:18:03 PM »

Tie on some 50# braid and dunk the reel in the water every few cast, that's what I do, LMG loves it  ~roflmao

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2017, 06:09:13 PM »

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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2017, 07:24:30 PM »

Just a thought based on whats posted I'm gonna say hes losing some distance not using a crank bait style rod. The distance I get with my crank bait rods is great vs a standard rod throwing cranks.

If you can use it get a little longer crankin rod it also helps with distance. 

It would be really hard to compare against what the guide was getting in distance but I would almost bet money he was using a cranking rod.
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2017, 07:29:46 PM »

Just a thought based on whats posted I'm gonna say hes losing some distance not using a crank bait style rod. The distance I get with my crank bait rods is great vs a standard rod throwing cranks.

If you can use it get a little longer crankin rod it also helps with distance. 

It would be really hard to compare against what the guide was getting in distance but I would almost bet money he was using a cranking rod.
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 07:31:39 PM »

Duckett 7.3 M Baitcasting rod


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The guide and you were throwing the same rod? Or that was the rod you were using?
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2017, 07:33:38 PM »

My rod he was using Duckett 7.6 MH


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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 08:56:50 PM »

Micro guides?

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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2017, 10:06:25 PM »

My rod he was using Duckett 7.6 MH


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Were either of the rods the moderate action cranking series? Just trying to determine if they are the moderate action. Generally the moderate rod action helps launch the baits quite well. One thing that does help his distance over yours is the 3" longer rod he had. Even if everything else was equal down to the way each of you cast I still highly doubt it would make up the difference you are describing though.


 
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 10:35:51 PM »

to me, a glass rod or a rod with a big parabolic bend is best for cranking and couple that with a curado greenie.  My dad gave me one of his old ones and that thing will chuck some lures. 
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 06:42:26 AM »

Were either of the rods the moderate action cranking series? Just trying to determine if they are the moderate action. Generally the moderate rod action helps launch the baits quite well. One thing that does help his distance over yours is the 3" longer rod he had. Even if everything else was equal down to the way each of you cast I still highly doubt it would make up the difference you are describing though.


 
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2017, 09:20:27 AM »

Wait a second, you're throwing 5XD's and 6XD's in 6-10 feet of water? On a 7:1?  :-\
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2017, 10:02:18 AM »

Wait a second, you're throwing 5XD's and 6XD's in 6-10 feet of water? On a 7:1?  :-\
Very good point how i overlooked that.  ::)
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I cannot feel it hit the bottom until 1/2 way back to the boat.
Something ain't right. He is in way deeper water than he thinks maybe? Something isn't making sense.
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Re: Crankbait rod-reel-line suggestions
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2017, 10:48:05 AM »

Two things...

Line size and type - I have seen line size and type make a big difference. 12 pound shouldn't hamper casting but if the guide is using 8 or 10 you can't keep up. As far as quickly diving, fluorocarbon will dive much faster than mono, especially starting about 12 pound test. So if you're using mono, you won't hit the bottom as fast as you'd like.

Internal bore of Pinion Gear. I have made hundreds of anglers overwhelmingly happy because I took a toothpick and wrapped it with cotton. Then run it into the internal bore of the pinion gear several times. (you can do this without disassembling the reel, just pull the spool out). Smear some oil on the spool shaft and cast. If you didn't clean the internal bore of the pinion gear when you broke down your reel, I can guarantee you'll see a big difference in casting distance after doing so. This isn't a super tune, just a cleaning.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2017, 12:06:27 PM »

Two things...

Line size and type - I have seen line size and type make a big difference. 12 pound shouldn't hamper casting but if the guide is using 8 or 10 you can't keep up. As far as quickly diving, fluorocarbon will dive much faster than mono, especially starting about 12 pound test. So if you're using mono, you won't hit the bottom as fast as you'd like.

Internal bore of Pinion Gear. I have made hundreds of anglers overwhelmingly happy because I took a toothpick and wrapped it with cotton. Then run it into the internal bore of the pinion gear several times. (you can do this without disassembling the reel, just pull the spool out). Smear some oil on the spool shaft and cast. If you didn't clean the internal bore of the pinion gear when you broke down your reel, I can guarantee you'll see a big difference in casting distance after doing so. This isn't a super tune, just a cleaning.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 08:55:39 AM »

Sounds like a lure think more than rod/reel, but what do I know.  I have seen some youtube videos where people put additional weights on the lure to get them a bit deeper like you're wanting to do.  The weights they used have a double sided tape on them and are very small.  That may work for you.
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 03:00:50 PM »

Good point Basss, we are assuming the guide didn't alter his bait.
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