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« on: October 11, 2017, 04:00:59 PM »

I will start off by saying I am a retired military verteran. I am in college right now and I have 1 semester left and I have been on the dean's list since my first semester. I consider myself a good role model for today's youth. This is all my opinion.

Today, while at school, I was informed by a faculty member that ALL, yes I said all, veterans are a bad influence on students and society as a whole. Now, me being me, I wanted to explode and I did not. I remained calm and sternly explained to her that the only reason she has the ability to run her mouth like that and to judge people is because of a lot of people like me who came before me and shed a lot of blood for her freedom.

Maybe I am wrong by being mad, but I don't think so. If I am being to sensitive please let me know.


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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 04:08:41 PM »

Your not wrong and that's the trouble with most of the colleges and professors that teach at them.
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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 04:21:07 PM »

want me to come throat punch her?  ~b~
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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 04:33:12 PM »

Did she espouse this stereotype during a lecture?


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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 04:52:57 PM »

No she proceeded to tell her Student Activities Board all of this during a meeting then to me this morning

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 05:07:48 PM »

Report her to the Dean and get her fired or make her take a course in open mindedness and humility.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 05:14:15 PM »

I have requested a meeting with the president on Friday. We will see what happens.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 05:23:25 PM »

I have requested a meeting with the president on Friday. We will see what happens.

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You did right by your actions.  Keep us informed of the meeting.

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 05:30:45 PM »

Rgr that CSM

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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 05:40:06 PM »

Your entitled you your snowflake, safe space, everyone is a winner for showing up opinion but the ability to freely express is because of actions and blood of those like me.


You did good, make sure you follow up and if it don't go well,,,,,,, hit them with the same BS, let them know you don't feel safe from her personal attack, and if she continues to use trigger words and judge you without being open minded and willing to be tolerant you will contact an attorney.

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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 05:42:08 PM »

I will start off by saying I am a retired military verteran. I am in college right now and I have 1 semester left and I have been on the dean's list since my first semester. I consider myself a good role model for today's youth. This is all my opinion.

Today, while at school, I was informed by a faculty member that ALL, yes I said all, veterans are a bad influence on students and society as a whole. Now, me being me, I wanted to explode and I did not. I remained calm and sternly explained to her that the only reason she has the ability to run her mouth like that and to judge people is because of a lot of people like me who came before me and shed a lot of blood for her freedom.

Maybe I am wrong by being mad, but I don't think so. If I am being to sensitive please let me know.


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I would speak to the Dean of the Dept and discuss with them what occurred, because that's  bull ^-^ !!
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Re: Ignorant People
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 06:12:20 PM »

I would have torn her up verbally. But, I think you are taking the better route.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 06:39:56 PM »

Thank you for your service, and no you were not wrong.  I hope the president of the college is respectful and understands that what she did was wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 06:42:23 PM »

You already have a case against her and she should be dismissed for her assertion. See below and pay particular attention to paragraph b army boy. It ain't allowed at any educational institution

Regents Policy: Principles Against Intolerancea. The mission of the University is to promote discovery and create and disseminate knowledge, to expand opportunities for all, and to educate a civil populace and the next generation of leaders. The University therefore strives to foster an environment in which all are included, all are given an equal opportunity to learn and explore, in which differences as well as commonalities are celebrated, and in which dissenting viewpoints are not only tolerated but encouraged. Acts of hatred and other intolerant conduct, as well as acts of discrimination that demean our differences, are antithetical to the values of the University and serve to undermine its purpose.b. University policy prohibits discrimination based on race, color, national origin, religion, "woops", gender, gender expression, gender identity, pregnancy, physical or mental disability, medical condition (cancer-related or genetic characteristics), genetic information (including family medical history), ancestry, marital status, age, sexual orientation, citizenship, service in the uniformed services, or the intersection of any of these factors. Prohibited discrimination arising from historical biases, stereotypes and prejudices jeopardizes the research, teaching and service mission of the University. This mission is best served when members of the University community collaborate to foster an equal learning environment for all, in which all members of the community are welcomed and confident of their physical safety.c. Human history encompasses many periods in which biased, stereotypical or prejudiced discourse, left unchallenged and uncontested, has led to enormous tragedy. In a community of learners, teachers, and knowledge-seekers, the University is best served when its leaders challenge speech and action reflecting bias, stereotypes, and/or intolerance. Anti-Semitism and other forms of discrimination have no place in the University. The Regents call on University leaders actively to challenge anti-Semitism and other forms of discrimination when and wherever they emerge within the University community.


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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 07:18:13 PM »

Good job controlling your emotions. Now saying that people like that who have influence on the minds of our youth need to be put in their place.
Keep on the path you are on.

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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 07:22:24 PM »

You did right by your actions.  Keep us informed of the meeting.

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I will start off by saying I am a retired military verteran. I am in college right now and I have 1 semester left and I have been on the dean's list since my first semester. I consider myself a good role model for today's youth. This is all my opinion.

Today, while at school, I was informed by a faculty member that ALL, yes I said all, veterans are a bad influence on students and society as a whole. Now, me being me, I wanted to explode and I did not. I remained calm and sternly explained to her that the only reason she has the ability to run her mouth like that and to judge people is because of a lot of people like me who came before me and shed a lot of blood for her freedom.

Maybe I am wrong by being mad, but I don't think so. If I am being to sensitive please let me know.


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Sometimes having a calm composure in these situations is better. It makes "people" like them lose their minds. How is it the most ignorant are always "qualified" to be the ones teaching anyways?!..

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 07:25:09 PM »

^^^Stay off of this guys grass!!!^^^ Lol. I agree. Sometimes having a calm composure in these situations is better. It makes "people" like them lose their minds. How is it the most ignorant are always "qualified" to be the ones teaching anyways?!..

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 07:33:45 PM »


If you can't do it you might as well teach it


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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 08:53:07 PM »

You’re not wrong.

The thing that makes me so mad these days is not only does everyone think they have things figured out but their ideas are seldom based on any fact at all and they spread their ideas on social media. People nowadays get “news” from comedy shows like jimmy kimmel and Fallon etc.

Opionion:
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

As a personal policy I try not to even use the word.


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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 05:42:38 AM »

Thank you for your service!!!

I would do what Ron said, turn their tactics around on them, you have all the same rights they do, big difference, you were willing to do defend them with all that you are!!
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 07:14:42 AM »

I truly thank all of you for your support with this. I will keep everyone posted 9ver the next few days with hat happens. Thanks again guys!!!

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 07:15:02 AM »

Shoot, I was lucky. I went to college in a small conservative southern town. I won't lie, it weren't easy. Being mid 20's, in an unhappy toxic marriage, and still remaining faithful with all those 18-20 year old girls wanting to flirt as soon as they found out I'm a vet. A very small few practically threw themselves at me, the rest just wanted to flirt. Except for that one girl... boy, the things she offered to do made me break a sweat. Glad I'm ugly, I don't think I'd've survived otherwise. But I stayed true, only cause it was morally the right thing to do.
Kinda wish I hadn't though, especially after I found out I was the only one being faithful.

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 07:20:12 AM »

Sounds like my first marriage

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 08:08:36 AM »

Thank you for your service to country. I'll also say I once served in the hazardous duty branch of the Navy. And I think you are taking the correct action of recourse. But I'm curious exactly what this ignorant person said to you. Do you remember if she gave a reason, or explain her sentiments, or did she just say "all veterans are a bad influence on students and society as a whole". We all have a right to an opinion, but I would like to hear how she formed such an opinion. Can you expand a little more on what she said?
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 08:14:16 AM »

All she told me was that no students should talk or interact with any veterans because we are all bad influences. No reason given

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