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Dink Dawg

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Spinning reel bail design.
« on: November 22, 2017, 09:40:59 PM »

Let me expose my ignorance. My spinning reels are Soros or Stradic models.  I am considering adding a Diawa Ballistic to go on a new Dobyns 702 Extreme. I see the bail is hollow tubular material where my Shimanos are a solid smaller diameter " titanium wire " type material. I cannot figure for the life of me what type has an advantage over the other.  I'm ready to be schooled by you guys in the know.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 10:02:16 PM »

The 'hollow tubular' is suppose to be a weight saving advantage......is it.....I don't feel the difference on mine.

The Ballistic LT is specifically designed to be light weight.
You getting an EX or LT.
Big weight difference......I guess  lo....4 ozs.

LT will probably balance w/702 better.......but that's ALL a personal decision.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2017, 07:04:04 AM »

Weight. That's the only difference I see.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2017, 07:47:24 AM »

hollow design= lighter weight and stronger


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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 05:21:35 PM »

hollow design= lighter weight and stronger


Lighter yes, stronger no. Be very careful with hollow bails. You can not bend them or kink them or they will break and will need replacing. I see it all the time at our shop.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 07:23:38 AM »

I wonder about lighter weight, you still need a certain amount of metal to make them. The part of the bail that takes the most abuse(unless you're throwing them down) is the area around the line roller they should be strong enough for that. I like the old Quantum Titanium bail with magnetic bail instead of springs, I still have a couple and like them.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 01:43:58 PM »

Well, I understand the value of a 'light' reels..........if your fishing 3-4 day tournies, 8 hrs a day.

But for the weekend angler.....A LIGHTER BAIL ARM....really going to make your day better?

I'm a 'light' weight fanatic/lunatic......but I STILL fish my old Quantums often.
I'm no more rested or less worn out after fishing anything.

And YES, I do fish 8-10 hr. days...and multiple back to back.
If I'm buying new.....ya I take 'weight' into consideration.........but not so much if I'm going to match it to a MH or higher rod.

Now if I'm matching a reel to a UL or light power......weight is more important.....but for 'balance purposes, rather than angler fatigue.

Ex. a Pflueger President is heavier than a President Supreme.........but the insides are full of PLASTIC.
I'll take 'longevity' over light.....ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

Ask yourself..........1-3 oz. difference REALLY going to lower fatigue?

BALANCE...maybe.
And how a setup feels in your hands is EXTREMELY important.....BUT not if your sacrificing quality to achieve it.

This is just MY thoughts.......which equates to little or NO value......but it's something to consider when buying a reel. 
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 12:31:11 AM »

The 'hollow tubular' is suppose to be a weight saving advantage......is it.....I don't feel the difference on mine.

The Ballistic LT is specifically designed to be light weight.
You getting an EX or LT.
Big weight difference......I guess  lo....4 ozs.

LT will probably balance w/702 better.......but that's ALL a personal decision.



I went with the new Ballistic 3000 LT.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 02:23:32 AM »

When reading  this thread the first thought I had was, "what about balance?" At 4 ounces lighter might that not cause some  sensitivity issues?
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 07:03:27 AM »

I don't thing that the bail wire is all that critical, it is only a means of guiding the line to the bail roller.  Most damage to the bail wire I have seen from experience is because of it being dropped or "abused" somehow.

Heck, a few of my larger reels didn't even come with a bail, just the roller assembly.
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Re: Spinning reel bail design.
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 06:18:24 AM »

Ask yourself..........1-3 oz. difference REALLY going to lower fatigue?

BALANCE...maybe.
And how a setup feels in your hands is EXTREMELY important.....BUT not if your sacrificing quality to achieve it.

This is just MY thoughts.......which equates to little or NO value......but it's something to consider when buying a reel.
That weight can make a big difference when you have arthritis in both hands and shoulders.
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