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Slower fall pitching
« on: January 14, 2018, 04:19:00 AM »

Early in the year I often pitch with an unpegged weight to give the bait a slower fall.
Now I have learned that in the heat of summer sometimes the fish still want that slower fall. But unpegged weights in heavy cover doesn't work well.
My solution has been to put the stop eight to twelve inches above the hook. With this set up you can still use as heavy of a weight as needed to penetrate the cover but still get a slower more eratic fall of the bait. This sometimes triggers the bites when a fast fall doesn't. I believe it is the eratic fall that actually gets the bites.

Problems with this is if the bait is too far from the weight bites on the fall are hard to detect and may tangle in the heaviest cover.
The shallower the cover the shorter the length of lead. I have used leads as much as two feet in deep pads.
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 07:20:55 AM »

Interesting!
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 07:28:32 AM »

I was going to say the same thing.  So your intentionally trying to hang the weight up ?
 Otherwise I can't see how it would change how fast the bait would fall.
 
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 07:43:55 AM »

I was going to say the same thing.  So your intentionally trying to hang the weight up ?
 Otherwise I can't see how it would change how fast the bait would fall.

Most of the time I use a bait with more floatant in it so it floats down slowly after the weight is at the bottom. But yes the bait often hangs on top and drags across the vegetation which slows the whole rig down.
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 08:40:12 AM »

zippy, one thing to potentially take a look at is the Yamamoto fat ika.  there's  your slow fall and it's highly attractive to the fish.

solid body 'tube'.  but rig it backwards.  heavy plastic, pitches extremely well.  great in brush piles.

I use flouro line for abrasion resistance.
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2018, 09:15:33 AM »

zippy, one thing to potentially take a look at is the Yamamoto fat ika.  there's  your slow fall and it's highly attractive to the fish.

solid body 'tube'.  but rig it backwards.  heavy plastic, pitches extremely well.  great in brush piles.

I use flouro line for abrasion resistance.

Brush piles I throw a 1/4oz. charlie brewer slider jig with a 5" hula grub. that things falls into all the holes in the brush.
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 09:47:18 AM »

I make a winter jig with a heavy foam head. With the head, skirt and pork trailer, the jig falls at 1 ft,/ 3 seconds. Extremely slow fall.

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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 10:55:40 AM »

Zippy, I have to say I truly admire that you think outside of the box!!  ~c~

You don't WAIT for some company to solve your challenges.......you START with trying to 'tweak' what you currently have and use with success and try to IMPROVE it to help you accomplish what your purpose of the tweaking in the first place is/was!  ~c~

And then when you find things that didn't get accomplished by the original tweak.....you tweak it again.  ~c~

Thanks for the share!!!!

We up north where I live don't have a lot of thick vegetation that we have to 'punch through'.
Ya we have some unique BOWs that punching heavy vegetation is an advantage........but not enough to actually weigh in on here.
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 03:36:43 AM »

Wizard  that is a cool jig you built to accomplish what I want to do.

Anal Yes us northerners don't have a lot of heavy cover and much of it is just pads. This is where this technique shines move the stop to about 3 inches shorter than the depth of water and the bait is pulled through the pads with the weight then it just flutters down..
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Re: Slower fall pitching
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 07:34:58 AM »

We have some bodies of water here, in fact most of them, that have heavy mifoil and coontail beds on some large flats, one of my favorite "T" rig deals is a soft stick bait with an non pegged weight. Many times I have to jiggle or shake it to get the weight down and the bait follows, the bait doesn't go down that fast. Caught some nice fish doing this. We don't have much in the way of brush or trees in the water but this works good around docks also.
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