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Ok I've been Converted
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:29:00 AM »

After reading the replies on a How do you Rig your Texas-Rig, I noticed that quite a few just buried the hook point instead of Tex-posing it like I always have.

For the record Tex-Posing the hook is bringing the hook point through and then sticking the point back into the plastic.

I noticed that several of the Florida Guys said they buried the point like when Flipping and I decided to give it a try.

What I found was that I could bring it through grass and junk much easier without getting snagged. The worm or whatever lays straighter, which I like. Sticking Fish was not a problem. The plastic bait lasted longer.

So like I said, I have been converted to a Hook Buryer instead of a Tex-Poser.


Try it and see if you don't like it better too.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2018, 11:02:15 AM »

Okey dokey then, I'll try it next time I go out.
What I used to do is push the tip through just to the point where I could feel it on the other side.

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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 11:49:54 AM »

For me it depends. On braid, I have no issue keeping the hook burried. On mono I tex-pose it for an easier hookup since there is more stretch on the line.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 12:01:14 PM »

After reading the replies on a How do you Rig your Texas-Rig, I noticed that quite a few just buried the hook point instead of Tex-posing it like I always have.

For the record Tex-Posing the hook is bringing the hook point through and then sticking the point back into the plastic.

I noticed that several of the Florida Guys said they buried the point like when Flipping and I decided to give it a try.

What I found was that I could bring it through grass and junk much easier without getting snagged. The worm or whatever lays straighter, which I like. Sticking Fish was not a problem. The plastic bait lasted longer.

So like I said, I have been converted to a Hook Buryer instead of a Tex-Poser.


Try it and see if you don't like it better too.
Glad you tried and liked it Fred. I always bury my hook with all plastics and situations.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 01:25:28 PM »

wow I was taught burying the hook was Texas rigged.

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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 01:33:29 PM »

Worm fishing started with burying the hook point into the worm. The plastic formulas were  different from today. The plastics were much harder and it was hard to set the hook. Very soon, Tex-posing came along to make the set easier. You no longer had to drive the hook through the plastic before it went into the bass. Over the years, plastic formulas evolved into the very soft plastic of today. Now you don't need the big hook set of yore. The hook pulls easily through the plastic and into the bass. Really no need to Tex-pose in today's fishing.

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 01:56:27 PM »

Thanks for referencing the original thread as I'd missed it.  I'm surprised there were no comments that relied upon the design of the hook.  I have some hooks that when rigged the point doesn't lay flat with the bait and I bring the point through the plastic then push the hook backwards into the bait covering the point to become weedless.  My wide-gap hooks are shaped with the point and barb flat and horizontal and they lay tight to the bait after the hook is pushed through.  These I tex-pose.

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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 03:34:49 PM »

Some years ago I went back to using straight shank hooks and I always bury them in the bait.  All the ones I have are round bend but i am looking for a stout straight shank hook with a sproat style bend. If anybody has any suggestions I'm open.  :-*
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2018, 05:07:44 PM »

Congrats on the conversion Fred!!! ~c~ ~c~ ~c~
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 08:28:12 AM »

I'm a Tex-poser ... but I too will give the bury method more of a chance.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 09:11:10 AM »

I've always just left the hook buried inside. Never had any issues.

Matter of fact, after a few fish and when tearing the head off the worm won't keep the hook buried anymore, I get a new worm. Cause that's when you start getting hung up.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2018, 10:14:15 AM »

I made the same switch about  a year ago.
Haven't looked back. It's much less snaggy and you're right about the worms lasting longer.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 01:57:16 PM »

I made the same switch about  a year ago.
Haven't looked back. It's much less snaggy and you're right about the worms lasting longer.

Unless it's a GY Senko they are real soft and don't last real long but the fish love them. i have always buried  my hooks also.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2018, 02:48:34 PM »

I've always just left the hook buried inside. Never had any issues...

I've had issues with the thicker swimbaits, skinny dippers specifically.  The hook doesn't go through and hook the fish.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2018, 02:56:13 PM »

I've had issues with the thicker swimbaits, skinny dippers specifically.  The hook doesn't go through and hook the fish.

What hooks are you using?
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2018, 03:23:45 PM »

I've had issues with the thicker swimbaits, skinny dippers specifically.  The hook doesn't go through and hook the fish.

This is where hook gap comes into the mix. You need to increase the hook gap size. I see a lot of new anglers make the opposite mistake if they are using a  long but thin bait. They use a hook with too  wide of a gap because they look at the length of the bait and think they need a hook that buries in the middle of the worm. Hook gap should always be determined by the thickness of the bait.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2018, 08:06:27 PM »

Does burying the hook reduce your hook ups?  It makes sense that the bait will go through the weeds better but are you missing fish because of it?
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2018, 06:07:48 AM »

Does burying the hook reduce your hook ups?  It makes sense that the bait will go through the weeds better but are you missing fish because of it?
No. If you have a good hook and you set the hook like you oughta, you will have no problem. I only Tex-pose when the plastic gets worn and its the only way to keep fishing that worm.

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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2018, 06:37:44 AM »

Does burying the hook reduce your hook ups?  It makes sense that the bait will go through the weeds better but are you missing fish because of it?

Pull the hook through enough to feel the point then pull the hook back. It's oldschool and it works.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2018, 08:09:06 AM »


Yes. A fully exposed hook will, on occasion, stick a bass that has bitten so lightly you would not have felt it if the hook point had been buried.  Exposed hook points are a good idea whenever the cover will allow.

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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2018, 08:23:03 AM »

Does burying the hook reduce your hook ups?  It makes sense that the bait will go through the weeds better but are you missing fish because of it?

Not at all.  For worms at least.  I have a very high hookup ratio, a missed set is a rare occurrence.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2018, 09:38:47 PM »

What hooks are you using?

I use Grammies. 3/0 or 5/0.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2018, 09:43:29 PM »

This is where hook gap comes into the mix. You need to increase the hook gap size. I see a lot of new anglers make the opposite mistake if they are using a  long but thin bait. They use a hook with too  wide of a gap because they look at the length of the bait and think they need a hook that buries in the middle of the worm. Hook gap should always be determined by the thickness of the bait.

 :-*   Thanks for the lesson.

The smaller skinny dippers -and thinner- have no issues with the same hooks ... hmmm.
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2018, 11:53:50 PM »

I do not Tex-pose mine. As some have already stated, I also use strait shank hooks almost exclusively for my plastics. I believe the Owner Jungle Flippin' Hook has me covered for 90% of my plastics besides swimbaits. these hooks have very stout Zo-Wire material that I don't bend out, and has a excellent designed keeper that is flexible yet holds baits plenty good. Has a good length shank with a nice round fairly wide bend that works well with some thicker baits as well as smaller ones. Also it is sharp as he** and that little bit of plastic has no bearing on my hook coming through.

I do not pre poke holes in my plastic for the hook point to come through as a matter a fact I cant stand the hook point poking through so easily. I need and prefer virgin plastic over the hook point so the only way its exposed is if I set it. Today's hooks are extremely sharp that little plastic ain't stopping a hook set. I like it to be able to snake its way through all the crud I toss mine into without hang ups on the junk. 

The EWG makes a "pretty" to the eye bait but if you want to stick fish get a strait shank. At least then 1/2 your hook point isn't covered by the shank of the hook itself.  :P
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Re: Ok I've been Converted
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2018, 08:35:40 AM »

OK, I know this thread is/was aimed at hooks and plastic worms.
GREAT thread!

BUT what about things like a Caffeine Shad or other plastic Flukes?
Or other 'softer' plastics or plastic worms like the Yamamoto Senko.

Straight shank really isn't the best, my opinion anyway. (talking Jerk bait now)
Especially when a 'weighted Wide Gap hook' is better for a 'flat fall' on the typical 'jerk bait' type cadence and retrieve.

So the question is, the deeper you 'in-bed' the hook, the more the plastic gets torn up when catching/setting or fighting a fish.
Frankly I even 'Tex pose' the hook in the slot on top.
Even though Caffeine's have a slot on top of them.

So I hear some say the worm lasts longer the deeper the insert......and yes I've tried it of course. ;) ;D

I use 'Mend-It' on almost every Caffeine Shad I've ever used.
Actually, put them in a seperate bag when on water and then save them till I got a dozen or so....then mend them in quantity.

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