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Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« on: August 04, 2018, 03:58:17 PM »

I have had my boat for 1 year now. When I purchased the boat it only came with a Hook3 on the console and nothing on the bow. I didnt want to finance extras and I dont know how to use them anyway so it wasnt a big deal.

After fishing for a bit last fall, I ended up getting a tablet and the Navionics app. It really helped me locate points and transitions on the water, and also helped me scope out a new lake before fishing it.

However, after a year of beating the bank, flipping and pitching to visible cover, and constantly asking my co angler the water depth its time to do something about it.

Features I think I would like are:

1.Networked console and bow units, so I can drop waypoints from the drivers seat and have them show up on my bow unit later.

2. Large enough screen for my old eyes to see. I am thinking minimum 9" on the bow, and 10 or 12 on the dash.

3. Side scan and down imaging, along with GPS.  I dont think I need 360 or the newest Garmin live scope. I would like to be able to spend some time motoring around on the lakes, marking weed lines and some deeper interesting structure, and then be able to return to it later. 

4. Touch screen, at least on the console, not a deal breaker but would be more intuitive for me.

I dont know about mixing and matching different models within a brand. Can I use a Solix 12 with side imaging on the dash, and then have the waypoints show up on a lower cost bow unit with only chirp and GPS?

I know its a lot of questions, I have been reading a ton on here and on some other forums.  Lets hear what you guys think, am I way off point or close enough to get started.

Are there places you can go where the sales people actually know how these units are set up and which transducers and networking cables you will need? I would gladly drive to someplace with a knowledgeable staff/person to get this setup right the first time.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 06:39:03 PM »

I have had my boat for 1 year now. When I purchased the boat it only came with a Hook3 on the console and nothing on the bow. I didnt want to finance extras and I dont know how to use them anyway so it wasnt a big deal.

After fishing for a bit last fall, I ended up getting a tablet and the Navionics app. It really helped me locate points and transitions on the water, and also helped me scope out a new lake before fishing it.

However, after a year of beating the bank, flipping and pitching to visible cover, and constantly asking my co angler the water depth its time to do something about it.

Features I think I would like are:

1.Networked console and bow units, so I can drop waypoints from the drivers seat and have them show up on my bow unit later.

2. Large enough screen for my old eyes to see. I am thinking minimum 9" on the bow, and 10 or 12 on the dash.

3. Side scan and down imaging, along with GPS.  I dont think I need 360 or the newest Garmin live scope. I would like to be able to spend some time motoring around on the lakes, marking weed lines and some deeper interesting structure, and then be able to return to it later. 

4. Touch screen, at least on the console, not a deal breaker but would be more intuitive for me.

I dont know about mixing and matching different models within a brand. Can I use a Solix 12 with side imaging on the dash, and then have the waypoints show up on a lower cost bow unit with only chirp and GPS?

I know its a lot of questions, I have been reading a ton on here and on some other forums.  Lets hear what you guys think, am I way off point or close enough to get started.

Are there places you can go where the sales people actually know how these units are set up and which transducers and networking cables you will need? I would gladly drive to someplace with a knowledgeable staff/person to get this setup right the first time.

Thanks in advance!

Using a SOLIX, you can share waypoints with any Humminbird unit that has an Ethernet connection.

If you get the same model series you can share a lot more than just waypoints.
Helix/Helix or SOLIX/SOLIX.
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2018, 07:22:03 AM »

Thanks for the reply Wayne. It was your advice that led me to the Samsung tablet with the Navionics app. So far it has exceeded my expectations.

I have been doing more reading here and there, and I like your idea of 2 side by side 12" units, for Left and Right side imaging. Totally cool. Way out of my price point but a very creative idea.

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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »

You definitely also want to look into a mapping card for whatever unit you get.  If i recall correctly, you can share map cards on two Solix units, but you cant share them on Helix units at all. 

I would suggest either Navionics+ Regions or Hotmaps Platinum cards for whatever you buy.  If you buy different brands, you can use navionics card across the different brands. 
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 04:42:19 PM »

You definitely also want to look into a mapping card for whatever unit you get.  If i recall correctly, you can share map cards on two Solix units, but you cant share them on Helix units at all. 

I would suggest either Navionics+ Regions or Hotmaps Platinum cards for whatever you buy.  If you buy different brands, you can use navionics card across the different brands.

Thats a very good point. I do like the Navionics features on the app so Id like to keep on with them when I get my units.

I have been doing my research, and so far it makes the most sense to stay with 2 of the same series units, solix/solix or  Carbon/Carbon, just to ensure they will communicate correctly. I wont be buying anything this fall, so Ill get hands on time at the spring fishing shows etc. There is a guide near me that offers electronics training time, and I am thinking of scheduling some time with him. It would be nice to see how someone who uses his graphs everyday utilizes the features vs my guess as to how I am going to use them.

Thanks for the input!
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 05:28:00 PM »

Thats a very good point. I do like the Navionics features on the app so Id like to keep on with them when I get my units.

I have been doing my research, and so far it makes the most sense to stay with 2 of the same series units, solix/solix or  Carbon/Carbon, just to ensure they will communicate correctly. I wont be buying anything this fall, so Ill get hands on time at the spring fishing shows etc. There is a guide near me that offers electronics training time, and I am thinking of scheduling some time with him. It would be nice to see how someone who uses his graphs everyday utilizes the features vs my guess as to how I am going to use them.

Thanks for the input!

The Navionics Mobile App "features" like depth offset, depth highlighting, fishing mode, the new shaded depth, etc) do not work with Humminbird units. Some may work with Lowrance units.
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 07:16:01 PM »

Wayne,

No kidding?

Im surprised. I guess I need to do more reading. I do like the navionics app, but I really want to be able to use side scan and mark waypoints on the image and have them show up on the map. Its the only way it makes any sense to me, marking waypoints to fish, and knowing where I need to position the boat to effectively fish them.

I guess its no biggie if I dont use the App as much once I get some units on the boat, Ill still use it to pre fish, and for making my plan the night before.

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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2018, 08:13:38 PM »

Wayne,

No kidding?

Im surprised. I guess I need to do more reading. I do like the navionics app, but I really want to be able to use side scan and mark waypoints on the image and have them show up on the map. Its the only way it makes any sense to me, marking waypoints to fish, and knowing where I need to position the boat to effectively fish them.

I guess its no biggie if I dont use the App as much once I get some units on the boat, Ill still use it to pre fish, and for making my plan the night before.


You can stop the screen scrolling with Side Imaging, move the curser to a subject and mark a waypoint. That has zero do it with any mapping. Waypoints are GPS data, not map data. Mapping is just a background on the plotter view. You can do the same with Lakemaster, or Humminbird basemap, or no map background. Mapping not GPS and GPS is not mapping.
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Re: Its time to put some electronics on the boat
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 08:53:03 AM »

your eyes are much closer to the console screen so I would put the larger unit on the bow. on the other hand, if you are constantly in split screen, the larger unit on the console might be better. I have two 9" units and it works for me.
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