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Mono backing
« on: November 11, 2020, 08:17:38 AM »

Im going to upgrade to 100lb braid and was wondering if for mono backing I should use line of the similar diameter or lb test
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2020, 08:32:17 AM »

You know I have to ask......Just what the heck are you fishing for?  I am not aware of fish in your area that could possibly require 100 lb braid.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2020, 08:53:58 AM »

Im going to upgrade to 100lb braid and was wondering if for mono backing I should use line of the similar diameter or lb test
I'm curious to know what freshwater fish in your parts will require 100lb braid, but if I would have to guess, match the mono to the diameter of the 100lb braid.

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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2020, 09:23:13 AM »

Muskies but im sick of loosing lures
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2020, 09:36:06 AM »

Have you tried a steel leader? Very old School but if it worked in the 1950's-60's, it will work today.

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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2020, 09:47:11 AM »

Have you tried a steel leader? Very old School but if it worked in the 1950's-60's, it will work today.

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I'm with Wizard, short steel wire leader should fix this problem. Going heavier braid may not be the solution.

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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2020, 09:53:11 AM »

I personally have done a lot of Musky and Northern fishing and a wire leader set up was what we used and typically on Mono line in those days.  The line size tended to be in the 20 # range.  The problem was not the size of the fish it was the teeth or perhaps rocks.  All I know is that it worked fine.  Believe me when I say that I have caught some monster fish on that very set up.   The real key is to use the correct rod and let it do the work it was designed to do.

Salt water anglers in my area are still using wire leaders just because of the toothy critters that live in the ocean.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2020, 09:54:11 AM »

What reel are you using?

I know a lot of musky are hooked near the boat, but I also know there is a lot of casting with large lures that will travel half a football field. My point is you need a lot of main line and even braid at 100 pound is going to take up a lot of spool space. Mono backing doesn't have to be the same diameter. In fact you can skip the backing and simply taping the braid to the spool to increase your main line capacity.

Two reasons for mono backing,

1) to save line thus money, by not putting more braid than you'll need on the spool

2) Braid, if there isn't backing or is taped to the spool, will solidify and become a cylinder that will rotate around the spool and make the user believe there is no drag. This is a figure of speech. The line isn't actually melted together but it acts like it is and spins around the spool.

If you're wanting to save some money because you have a large spooled reel, just use a cheap 15 pound line. If you're wanting to prevent the cylinder effect, tape to the spool or use the same 15 pound mono but only 8-10 windings are need.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2020, 12:24:38 PM »

I'm with Wizard, short steel wire leader should fix this problem. Going heavier braid may not be the solution.
Always use steel
Just going  heavy  i dont  loose the lure with steel to snags
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2020, 12:50:15 PM »

Sorry, still don't comprehend.  Just how exactly are you losing lures?  Break offs ?, Snags?, Fish? bad knots?  Are you fishing from shore?  Your loss of lures is baffling.  What is it you are not telling us?
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2020, 05:04:19 PM »

Do I understand you correct? You're losing lures because you are snagging objects and are losing them because you are snapping the main line before anything else, while trying to get said lures back? You're going to 100lb braid to try and take the main line breaking out of the equation? If so, I would tie directly to the spool, or go with a few feet of backing. #100 braid is roughly the diameter of #20 mono. I would try to get as much braid on the reel as possible, especially if you're not using a reel with a larger spool. JMO
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2020, 06:11:08 PM »

100 Lb. braid
Snag
Pull like He__
Break Reel
lures are cheaper than Reals
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2020, 02:29:56 PM »

Best knot
Double palomar but put doubled line through eye twice
Put my hand on the spool and walk backwards
Instead of the hook bending it breaks
Which shouldn’t be happening considering ive caught bricks before
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2020, 02:56:11 PM »

Best knot
Double palomar but put doubled line through eye twice
Put my hand on the spool and walk backwards
Instead of the hook bending it breaks
Which shouldn’t be happening considering ive caught bricks before

Where is it breaking?
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2020, 06:11:32 PM »

Few inches Above the knot
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2020, 05:36:44 AM »

Where are you fishing ?  Sounds like a flooded junk yard.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2020, 08:16:38 AM »

Where are you fishing ?  Sounds like a flooded junk yard.
Ponds with fountains
It will get snagged on the fountain pipe and it breaks before the hook bends
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2020, 04:47:41 PM »

I'm probably being Captain obvious but I would suggest since you know where said pipe is to not throw it there.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2020, 04:49:51 PM »

It happened twice once on me and other when friend took cast when i wasn't looking
There are also fish that hang out near that area
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2020, 04:55:02 PM »

Then I would say live with it.. Losing baits is part of the game. There's always the ol tub o' night crawlers.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2020, 06:07:23 AM »

I would walk around the pond until the lure comes free. Puke and musky can shock line a lot harder than a bass.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2020, 08:41:25 AM »

I would walk around the pond until the lure comes free. Puke and musky can shock line a lot harder than a bass.
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I did it didn’t pop
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2020, 09:08:04 AM »

You have a problem for every solution I'll say that.
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2020, 09:39:48 AM »

You have a problem for every solution I'll say that.
Almost always have and it’s annoying
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2020, 11:34:05 AM »

What ya going to do when you pull the pipe apart?
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Re: Mono backing
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2020, 07:31:37 AM »

What ya going to do when you pull the pipe apart?
Get lure back and blame it on someone else if I get asked about it
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