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Straight Mono or CoPoly
« on: January 31, 2021, 10:30:36 AM »

Looking to spool up one rig with a mono style line.  I have never used a copoly line but am considering using the Sufix Advance in 12 LB test.  Is this a good decision or should I just stick with straight mono.  It will be used for top water prop style baits.  If you have used this line I would like to hear your comments.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2021, 10:59:23 AM »

Co-poly will normally have a bit of sink to it, so if you are using for top water prop walking baits, you might want to stick with mono.  I've tried a few co-poly lines with my boing lures and other top waters and I think they behaved better with straight mono...
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2021, 01:03:11 PM »

Bud, I've used them interchangeably for years. Never really gave a lot of thought to it, as long as the line did what I needed and was affordable. The other choice for me has been braids.

I've used Ande mono lines a long time off & on, and have gone back to using them. Also still use the Yozuri Hybrid. Stretch and memory have been my primary considerations, plus cost, and they each vary between them, but both have worked well for me. We all view the lines we use differently, because of how we like to fish.

I used Silver Thread too in the past, mainly in light tests for, 4 to 8 lb, for panfishing and general fishing, and have no complaints about it, except when they started making the AN version, I didn't like it as much, because it had more memory IMO than the earlier line they made. I also only used it on spinning gear. I use the Ande & Hybrid on both spinning & casting gear, and some just do not seem to work well on both. Yozuri makes  a "soft" version that does work well on spinning gear.

I've used the various popular lines like Trilene & Stren too and they have varied over the years. I can't say I had any bad experience with them, but also wasn't looking for line that worked well for any specific techniques. These were more general purpose. Big Game was one of the Trilene lines I used for bass, and it worked, but has a good bit of memory. I still have a surf fishing reel with Big Game on it, only because it's not a costly line and when all I'm doing with it is dunking bait occasionally, don't see a need for specialized line.

IMO, some of these lines change, because the brand changes who actually produces them, so now that's a consideration for me. It wasn't in the past. I've been buying the Ande line direct from them, and it's the same line as I used 30 or more years ago as near as I can tell, so now to me that's important. So far the Yozuri line has also been consistent, and I like it a lot, so I've been sticking with it.

I've yet to find perfection with any line, and there may be better choices, but I'm going to stay with what I've been using as a good balance of performance & cost.

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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2021, 01:29:49 PM »

Jim, I too am reluctant to change from my known stand by products.  I have decided to stay with Sufix Seige for this particular mono application.  I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2021, 01:33:52 PM »

IMO, I've wasted time & money attempting to find something better in the past. That brought me back to lines I had used and have to agree. It wasn't broke, but I think many of us do look for better, and often it's been right under our nose.  ::)
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2021, 03:18:38 PM »

The flip side is, the new things we try might end up being our new best. How would I know if Copoly would work for me, if I don't try it? Line is pretty cheap. It's not like wondering if I might like a Shimano Calcutta Conquest reel paired up with a Conquest rod.

If we never tried to find better, the bait monkey wouldn't exist :)


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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2021, 03:37:50 PM »

The flip side is, the new things we try might end up being our new best. How would I know if Copoly would work for me, if I don't try it? Line is pretty cheap. It's not like wondering if I might like a Shimano Calcutta Conquest reel paired up with a Conquest rod.

If we never tried to find better, the bait monkey wouldn't exist :)

Don't mind trying new stuff but this line will be spooled up and used for my upcoming bucket list trip.  Thought I would stay with what I know for this one.  Might try the copoly when I return home where there is not so much on the line.  (no pun intended)
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2021, 04:03:15 PM »

Don't mind trying new stuff but this line will be spooled up and used for my upcoming bucket list trip.  Thought I would stay with what I know for this one.  Might try the copoly when I return home where there is not so much on the line.  (no pun intended)

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, probably best to stick with something you know works. Have a blast on your trip!!
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2021, 04:38:44 PM »

I've used the advance for a year or so and have no issues. It's not the thinnest line out there but I use the 12lb. for topwater and crankbaits. It doesn't any issues with memory and casts well.. I personally like the green.
 For strictly topwater it's pretty hard to beat braid however,  it makes a average bait walk, wake or chug better.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2021, 05:03:57 PM »

I've used the advance for a year or so and have no issues. It's not the thinnest line out there but I use the 12lb. for topwater and crankbaits. It doesn't any issues with memory and casts well.. I personally like the green.
 For strictly topwater it's pretty hard to beat braid however,  it makes a average bait walk, wake or chug better.

The top water in the plan is the Devil Horse.  It is strongly recommended not to use braid as it tends to hang up on the props on the bait.  I will have two other braid filled rods for use with other top water baits.  The mono reel then could also be used for certain types of cranks/spinner baits/chatter baits.  Another rod will be rigged for some good ol senko type baits.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2021, 10:43:19 PM »

I got turned off by Siege after they did a formula change quite a few years back.  It didn't hold up to saltwater like it used to.  Might be OK in fresh, dunno haven't been there in quite a while.

When everything is on the line, I would go with Ande, it has never failed me.  Right now I have years worth of Pline CXX that has to be used up.  Good stuff in the abrasive department, is about all I can say about it.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2021, 12:18:59 PM »

I put a short hybrid/mono leader on the braid. It works for me anyway. I use the shin knot....easy.
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Re: Straight Mono or CoPoly
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2021, 11:02:19 AM »

Love Silver Thread Excalibur copolymer, and Izorline XXX Super Copolymer. I catch 1,000+ smallies a year up on Erie, and NEVER had problems with these lines. I can't remember the last time i had a break off either, and that's while catching PIGS up on Erie......maybe 30 years ago....that's also because I balance my rod & line, power/action/ lb test.
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