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Power pro braid snapping
« on: August 14, 2011, 05:41:58 PM »

Hi

I have been using power pro braid for my sea bass fishing here in Europe.  I was using .15mm diameter braid tied to mono using an albright knot.  The patchinko surface popper lure I was using is 27g and the line just snapped on the cast.  Has anyone else had similar problems and would you recommend an alternative braid? I have seen some suggesting Stren?
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 05:45:04 PM »

I have had some people tell me that they have had a bad batch of braid too. I have seen this first hand.. So it would be safe to say if you get another round of it you should be ok!
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 05:49:43 PM »

I have had some people tell me that they have had a bad batch of braid too. I have seen this first hand.. So it would be safe to say if you get another round of it you should be ok!

so you say stick to Power Pro
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 08:43:15 PM »

I've been using PowerPro since it's been available here in the U.S.  On occasion, I have gotten a bad spool of line.  It happens....

So yes, stay with PowerPro, it's good line.  One thing I rarely do is mess around with a leader.  About the only time I ever use a leader with PowerPro is when I'm fishing around Zebra Mussels, which are very sharp and will cut through most line.  The rest of the time, I simply tie direct to the lure and I haven't noticed any loss in my fish catch ratio.

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 09:24:51 PM »

I have a lot of confidence in the Toray Bawo Braid.  I have not had a bad spool.  I use it from 10# to 60#. 

I do like to put a leader of Fluorocarbon and I use the same know as you on lighter lines.  On the heavier lines (20# Fluoro and greatier) I splice the line with hollow braid.  This is a knot-less connection, supper strong and smooth to cast.

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 10:56:08 AM »

When tying the braid to mono, are you using the same size diameter mono?  Braid does slip a little easier than mono, and if you are using different size diameters it could be what is happening.  How does the line of power pro come back.  Is it a clean break, or can you see some memory in the line of where the knot used to be and see that it definitely slipped? 

Also, you say you are using .15 mm braid.  That is equivalent to .06 inch braid diameter, or 2 lb diameter line.  That seems pretty small, I would think you would want something stronger for sea bass.  I would think you would want to use .3 mm braid, which would be 40 lb of drag, then you can attach it directly to the same .3 mm mono - which would be 10 lb test.  This could be the problem, you are using a very small diameter line, tying it to a diameter line that is much larger, and then knot having the drag set to overcome absolutely no stretch.  Try going up to the .3 mm braid and you should probably have better results...
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 06:20:03 AM »

I noticed you are fishing for Sea Bass. Have you had the braid on your rod very long? Have you checked your guides for cracks and imperfections?

I have found that Salt and Brackish conditions are pretty rough on braids, and that they need to be replaced at minimum every second year or so. The salt actually gets inside the braid and abraids from the inside out, more or less.

A damaged guide can give you all kinds of havoc with braid, that actually would be my first suspect instead of a bad spool, although the spool is second on my list.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 04:36:39 AM »

Hi

I have been using power pro braid for my sea bass fishing here in Europe.  I was using .15mm diameter braid tied to mono using an albright knot.  The patchinko surface popper lure I was using is 27g and the line just snapped on the cast.  Has anyone else had similar problems and would you recommend an alternative braid? I have seen some suggesting Stren?

When you say the line snapped on the cast... where did it snap?  Did the braided line snap? Did the connection knot to the mono fail?  Did the mono line snap?  Lately I have been using the blood knot for leader connections.  I like it because its strong and the finished knot is pretty small.  My rod has tiny guides so I need the knot small.  On my rods where the guide are larger I have used the uni to uni knot which I think is easier to tie but ends up with a slightly larger profile.

Make sure with either knot you pull them hard together to make sure all the slip is out of the knots before you cut the tag lines.

Your braid shouldnt be snapping on the cast in any case.  If you think your line is defective, return it for a new roll.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 10:27:02 AM »

powerpro is outdated.if you search the net you will find plenty of people had snapping issues with it.i've never had it happen.since it is outdated and there are other far superior braids out there i would go with sufix 832.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 05:10:23 AM »

I have had both the 40lb and 50lb break on the cast and will not buy either of those pound test PP again, however the 30lb and 65lb have been very solid for me. Might have gotten bad spools, but that was enough to kill any confidence I have in there 40 or 50lb.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 08:07:47 AM »

powerpro is outdated.if you search the net you will find plenty of people had snapping issues with it.i've never had it happen.since it is outdated and there are other far superior braids out there i would go with sufix 832.

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 12:50:20 AM »

mine snapped 2x on a cast this week...30lb moss green
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2011, 09:21:09 AM »

How is power pro out dated? I've been using it for several years and never had a problem. I guess I don't understand how it could be out dated? That would be like saying Trilene is out dated because there are other brands to pick from? Or that reaction innovations sweet beaver is out dated because there or copies every where

I understand there are options, that's a great thing! But it doesn't mean the original is bad, or does it?

I have 200% faith in power pro and have pulled monster bass from the thickest of cover and never worried about if I would break it off. If it's snapping on a cast more often than not it's the knot slipping. Not always but a good place to start looking, and that goes for any braid. The first fix is to make sure your doubling the hook or bait eye with your braid as it slips easily.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 09:41:25 AM »

I'm not one to need braid where I fish but I have used powerpro and suffix and that suffix 832 can't touch power pro in any way in my mind.  Saying its outdated has absolutely no merit whatsoever.  You can find a bad review or experience about anything on the internet if you look for it but until you do your own comparisons you're simply using hearsay. 
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2011, 10:59:42 PM »

I think calling PP outdated is basically saying" I want to give a reason to not use PP, but cant come up with a legitimate one. 

Come ON! Every braid brand out there claims to be better than all the others because they have some fancy new process for doing the same thing they were doing before.

You know what causes braid to snap?
Abusing it in the spool pulling out backlashes. It will cut itself just like it will cut your fingers when you jerk and tug on it.

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 05:03:29 AM »

I'm not one to need braid where I fish but I have used powerpro and suffix and that suffix 832 can't touch power pro in any way in my mind.  Saying its outdated has absolutely no merit whatsoever.  You can find a bad review or experience about anything on the internet if you look for it but until you do your own comparisons you're simply using hearsay.
What has been so much better about powerpro than suffix 832?  In my experience there isnt much difference. I had great experiences with both lines. The suffix is a size smaller for the same line capacity though which I like.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2011, 10:00:31 AM »

Power Pro is the only braid i use... Never had an issue with it, so if it aint broke, dont fix it (knock on wood)

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2011, 12:45:31 PM »

Hey we need power pro like we need fireline and spiderwire and suffix(my favorite) come on we donít want just one type of braid that would be bad. and if everyone only bought one type that would kill competition. I myself am a Sufix man but Iíve been using power pro while Iím here in florida catching snook and redfish. Itís good that different people like different line.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2011, 07:58:55 AM »

Im getting to this thread a little late, but Power Pro has been my go to braid for years. I have tried all the biggies as they became available and liked some, but Power Pro has been my hands down fav. It is the line I will go to 90% of the time when spooling braid.

Sure there have been some changes in braid technology, but I think Power pro got it right the first time
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 03:37:11 PM »

If you go back on what lines have been around, braid is not a new thing my dad said that when he was young he could remember that my grandpa had black braid of somesort. I have no idea who made this either.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 06:39:53 PM »

Broskee, that was actually Dacron and though it looks similar it is a totally different product.

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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 06:47:25 PM »

My power pro snapped on Sunday. I stuck my shock in a pile of boulders 15' under water and eventually I had to tie off on the boat and pull forward till it snapped. :)
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2011, 05:20:09 AM »

My power pro snapped on Sunday. I stuck my shock in a pile of boulders 15' under water and eventually I had to tie off on the boat and pull forward till it snapped. :)
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2011, 07:34:32 PM »

lo Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning.

why would you laugh at facts.that's why powerpro finally came out with their new braid.it's an 8 strand braid like the better braids out there.they new they were behind on this one.
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Re: Power pro braid snapping
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2011, 07:38:46 PM »

How is power pro out dated? I've been using it for several years and never had a problem. I guess I don't understand how it could be out dated? That would be like saying Trilene is out dated because there are other brands to pick from? Or that reaction innovations sweet beaver is out dated because there or copies every where

I understand there are options, that's a great thing! But it doesn't mean the original is bad, or does it?

I have 200% faith in power pro and have pulled monster bass from the thickest of cover and never worried about if I would break it off. If it's snapping on a cast more often than not it's the knot slipping. Not always but a good place to start looking, and that goes for any braid. The first fix is to make sure your doubling the hook or bait eye with your braid as it slips easily.

powerpro digs.it is rough and noisey.search the net and you will find a lot of posts about it snapping.it is a 4 strand braid.the new braids such as diawa,sufix 832 and fireline braid are 8 strand braids.they are rounder,smoother and quieter and they don't dig or snap.sufix 832 is far superior in abrasion resistance to other braids and it sinks instead of floating.this gives it a more direct line to your bait increasing sensitivity.powerpro has even come out with an 8 strand because they had to to compete.i would be willing to try their new braid but the old powerpro is model t technology.
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