Bait Monkey trikes Again!!!

Bretts_daddy · October 22, 2019, 03:17:30 PM

I was bitten by the bait monkey today. I just couldn't resist $96 for a 13 Fishing Concept Z casting reel on Amazon.com. I mean it's original price tag was $200 and I'm sure like most reels it was a little overpriced but at more than 50% off I just couldn't resist. I'm thinking for less than $100 it's probably one of the best sub-hundred dollar reels you're going to find. It'll be here Thursday so hopefully I'll get to test it out before the hard water hits here up North

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LgMouthGambler · October 22, 2019, 03:20:00 PM

I am curious as to what you think of this reel. I have just ordered 2 more Korean OEM platforms myself, and this one was one that I was contemplating on. I decided to go with a Quantum model instead. None the less, that is a killer deal on that reel.

fishballer06 · October 22, 2019, 03:28:47 PM

I've seen videos of these reels bombing lures out there whenever some premium bearings are installed in them.

Bretts_daddy · October 22, 2019, 03:33:02 PM

Quote from: fishballer06 on October 22, 2019, 03:28:47 PM
I've seen videos of these reels bombing lures out there whenever some premium bearings are installed in them.

I just watched some videos and they were bombing them with the CZB bushings in there...one was measured at 157.10 ft. Excited to try it

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Lipripper · October 22, 2019, 03:50:05 PM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 22, 2019, 03:33:02 PM
I just watched some videos and they were bombing them with the CZB bushings in there...one was measured at 157.10 ft. Excited to try it .

That's like 52 yards that's half a football field.

LgMouthGambler · October 22, 2019, 03:52:58 PM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 22, 2019, 03:33:02 PM
I just watched some videos and they were bombing them with the CZB bushings in there...one was measured at 157.10 ft. Excited to try it .

Just remember, those bushings still need to be oiled.

ike8120 · October 22, 2019, 03:56:07 PM

Just had to buy some H20 jerk baits and Smithwick Rogue.

Bretts_daddy · October 22, 2019, 06:07:33 PM

Quote from: LgMouthGambler on October 22, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Just remember, those bushings still need to be oiled.

Not nearly as much as bearings though according to 13 Fishing.

LgMouthGambler · October 22, 2019, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 22, 2019, 06:07:33 PM
Not nearly as much as bearings though according to 13 Fishing.

About the same.

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Bretts_daddy · October 22, 2019, 08:54:08 PM

Quote from: LgMouthGambler on October 22, 2019, 06:14:40 PM
About the same.

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According to 13 Fishing these CZB bushings are self-lubricating and the more they are used the better they lubricate themselves. I have seen it recommended to add a drop of oil every so often but for the most part they say as these bearings wear in they will become better lubricated. Technical jargon to me but that's what they say.

LgMouthGambler · October 23, 2019, 01:58:41 AM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 22, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
According to 13 Fishing these CZB bushings are self-lubricating and the more they are used the better they lubricate themselves. I have seen it recommended to add a drop of oil every so often but for the most part they say as these bearings wear in they will become better lubricated. Technical jargon to me but that's what they say.

Kinda sorta. They will wear which will increase play in them, which seems "self lubricating". Lol. Common thing in them is decrease in tolerance. Many people end up replacing the bushings with high quality bearings, which is what I was gonna do if I ended up with one. But decided to forget it and went with a Smoke for $90. Lol

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Bretts_daddy · October 23, 2019, 05:51:24 AM

We'll see. For now I'm keeping it stock, I mean the whole point of this reel is that it has "zero" bearings...they kinda' built their whole ad campaign around that and even put a big "Zero" label on the reel advertising it...seems I'd be missing the point if I installed bearings but we'll see...maybe in the future

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LgMouthGambler · October 23, 2019, 07:26:07 AM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 23, 2019, 05:51:24 AM
We'll see. For now I'm keeping it stock, I mean the whole point of this reel is that it has "zero" bearings...they kinda' built their whole ad campaign around that and even put a big "Zero" label on the reel advertising it...seems I'd be missing the point if I installed bearings but we'll see...maybe in the future .

Gimmicks

Oldfart9999 · October 24, 2019, 06:09:48 AM

Seems to me that unless the lube is built into the bushing as they wear the looseness is what allows them to keep casting. I'll go with bearings and give them a drop of oil every so often.
Rodney

Bretts_daddy · October 24, 2019, 08:00:43 AM

I'm resisting bearings for now...really want to fish it as it was meant to be fished but in the future if I decide to go with bearings a complete kit for this reel of Speed Spool bearings is only $35.

LgMouthGambler · October 24, 2019, 08:14:52 AM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 24, 2019, 08:00:43 AM
I'm resisting bearings for now...really want to fish it as it was meant to be fished but in the future if I decide to go with bearings a complete kit for this reel of Speed Spool bearings is only $35.

Ugh, they are junk.

Just giving you fair warning. He makes a killing selling you bearings he gets from China for $0.25 a piece.

Bretts_daddy · October 24, 2019, 02:57:05 PM

Quote from: LgMouthGambler on October 24, 2019, 08:14:52 AM
Ugh, they are junk. Just giving you fair warning. He makes a killing selling you bearings he gets from China for $0.25 a piece.

Who do you recommend? I just checked and I can get spool bearings from Boca Bearings (ABEC 7) for $30 shipped...would that be better?

coldfront · October 24, 2019, 03:39:34 PM

Lee is not pay ing attention today.

LgMouthGambler · October 24, 2019, 07:25:11 PM

Quote from: Bretts_daddy on October 24, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
Who do you recommend? I just checked and I can get spool bearings from Boca Bearings (ABEC 7) for $30 shipped...would that be better?

Nope, still Chinese. Either ZPi, Hedgehog, or Hawgtech. All are quality.

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fishballer06 · October 25, 2019, 09:09:12 AM

Quote from: LgMouthGambler on October 24, 2019, 08:14:52 AM
Ugh, they are junk. Just giving you fair warning. He makes a killing selling you bearings he gets from China for $0.25 a piece.

This. Most of these bearing companies that pop up are buying the same bearings that you can buy on eBay for under $1 a piece (as long as you know the bearing size). I buy my bearings by the dozen on eBay for my handle knobs and levelwind bearings for about $10 shipped. They work great for what they're used for, but if I were buying spool bearings, I'd buy a higher quality bearing like LMG mentioned.