A while ago I had bought a DIY Ray's Studio spool for my Tatula CT. That spool was a Microcast which is very shallow. Meant for some more finesse type fishing. Probably a little more shallow than I expected.
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About 2 months ago I decided to put braid on all my reels and a couple of weeks ago decided to get another spool for the Tatula Type R. This time I made sure the spool was more like the SV spool as far as shallowness. They had a Tatula 103 Long Cast spool which seemed like a good size.
Today the spool came in and it does look a lot more like the SV spool which also happens to be as deep as the Tatula 103 (Japan's version of the Tatula 100).
The spool info:
Weight 13.6g
Line capacity:
12LB-120M
14LB-100M
16LB-80M
So for 34 bucks I have an extra spool which I plan on throwing some mono on since the stock spool has braid. The mono spool will come on mostly for any bank fishing.
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Spooled up with mono.
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Oh God. Im gonna throw up with all this budget crap on a Daiwa. Lol.
I still love ya though Rick.
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Quote from: LgMouthGambler on June 20, 2017, 06:48:12 PM
Oh God. Im gonna throw up with all this budget crap on a Daiwa. Lol.
I still love ya though Rick.
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It's actually not that much cheaper than a Daiwa Tatula 103H-TW which is 44 bucks. + shipping.
But it's a lighter spool.
Big Game is cheaper than the KastKing mono if that makes you feel any better. LOL
Looks good man
Quote from: DinksAllDay on June 27, 2017, 03:37:53 AM
Oh and there's another diy spool..a long cast spool? Would that be a cheaper sv alternative?
Dinks here is the post I made of the DIY Long Cast spool. Just so you can see the pics I wasn't sure if you had seen this post yet.
Hey appreciate it Rick!
Real (reel) reason I'm looking into this is that I saw the tatula sv video on how well it skips and now I want to do that
I'm wondering how much this is gonna cost me lol
Quote from: DinksAllDay on June 28, 2017, 12:14:12 PM
Hey appreciate it Rick!
Real (reel) reason I'm looking into this is that I saw the tatula sv video on how well it skips and now I want to do that
I'm wondering how much this is gonna cost me lol
The long cast spool was 34 bucks.
Yes you're right..but will it end there..?
I'm already looking to see what bearing upgrades I should do...and if I should get another tat...
But I'll create a different thread for that
Quote from: DinksAllDay on June 28, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
Yes you're right..but will it end there..?
I'm already looking to see what bearing upgrades I should do...and if I should get another tat...
But I'll create a different thread for that
End? There is no end my friend. That I am certain of.
The struggle is real.
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So I'd like to update this after using the spool for about 3 hours yesterday.
I really liked the long cast DIY spool. Unlike the microcast spool this one is easier to control. The thing actually casts better than the stock Type R spool. It was bombing the 1oz 110 whopper plopper nearly unspooling entirely with mono. So I had to be careful.
Then I went lighter, and tied on a 1/8oz bullet weight with a uvibe and this thing launched it effortlessly.
Wasn't getting any bites so I downsized some more. Went to a 1/16oz and a uvibe and was casting just as far as I was with the 1/8.
Then I tried the 1/16 with a finesse worm and again like a bullet.
Went to a fluke with a 1/32 oz weight and had no issue casting that, then a weightless fluke and still no issue casting that. I was getting about the same if not more distance out of this than I would have out of my spinning outfit.
The other thing is I had the brakes set to 10 which is higher than I normally would set them to and I had my spool tension tighter than usual too. When I put them down to 8 I needed to feather the spool a little more but got even more distance.
I'm sure that with some more fine tuning of the tension and brakes I can get even more distance out of it while still maintaining control of the spool.
I also cast into the wind for a while and it performed very well though wind wasn't too bad.
Very impressed with this spool.
I had a couple of overruns but they weren't bad when I cast without using the thumb just to see how it would work. Usually it worked itself out and caught up with itself.
Very light thumbing really worked well.
Sounds like the DIY spool is doing its job for you. So far the results with people and those spools seem to be positive ones.
I'm going to test it a little more but I might potentially get another one and just replace the type r spool all together.
Just keep the Type R around as a back up spool in case the DIY has any issue.
It is doing its job, very impressed.
Quote from: LgMouthGambler on July 05, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
Sounds like the DIY spool is doing its job for you. So far the results with people and those spools seem to be positive ones.
I have two. One i use the other I don't. The only downside is there tends to be a gap between the spool and the frame when you throw lighter baits requiring less tension on the spool. Noticed it on the T3. I switched from the ned rig to a jig and the issue went away. Not a deal breaker just something I did notice.
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Quote from: Down4ttown on July 10, 2017, 08:19:57 AM
I have two. One i use the other I don't. The only downside is there tends to be a gap between the spool and the frame when you throw lighter baits requiring less tension on the spool. Noticed it on the T3. I switched from the ned rig to a jig and the issue went away. Not a deal breaker just something I did notice.
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Downtown, I haven't seen any gaps on any of the Tatula ones I have.
I have the one for the Type R and also one for the CT.
The Long Cast seem to fit just fine inside the reel. No gaps, no issues so far.
I am going to be testing the long cast one for my CT today hopefully if the weather holds up later.
I also have a "Microcast" which is super shallow and that one also has no gap. As far as I can tell they have done a fantastic job with the Tatula DIY spools.
Quote from: rickdelprado on July 10, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
Downtown, I haven't seen any gaps on any of the Tatula ones I have.
I have the one for the Type R and also one for the CT.
The Long Cast seem to fit just fine inside the reel. No gaps, no issues so far.
I am going to be testing the long cast one for my CT today hopefully if the weather holds up later.
I also have a "Microcast" which is super shallow and that one also has no gap. As far as I can tell they have done a fantastic job with the Tatula DIY spools.
The gap wasn't that visual at first. I was throwing 10lb braid with a ned rig when just about every cast was nesting. Well it was actually the line getting caught between the frame and spool. I was throwing an 1/8oz Jig head so maybe the light tension. Either way, I took some line off and it works fine. I have that reel to my wife as it casts so easily for her. I like the spools so don't want anyone to think that I don't. Just an issue that I had.
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Quote from: Down4ttown on July 10, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
The gap wasn't that visual at first. I was throwing 10lb braid with a ned rig when just about every cast was nesting. Well it was actually the line getting caught between the frame and spool. I was throwing an 1/8oz Jig head so maybe the light tension. Either way, I took some line off and it works fine. I have that reel to my wife as it casts so easily for her. I like the spools so don't want anyone to think that I don't. Just an issue that I had.
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I see. Do you have the microcast which is the super shallow one or the long cast?
I don't use line that light so maybe that is why I haven't found it to be an issue.
One thing is for sure, I do have to set my brakes at a higher setting on these spools and the tension a little tighter because they cast so far but the spool turns so fast it is easier to birds nest.
I have the shallow.
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Quote from: Down4ttown on July 10, 2017, 09:15:38 AM
I have the shallow.
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Got ya.
Rick did you upgrade your casting bearings?
Would upgrading casting bearings affect the ability to throw light lures on this spool?
Thanks for the update, I'm about to place an order for the diy long cast
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 10, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
Rick did you upgrade your casting bearings?
Would upgrading casting bearings affect the ability to throw light lures on this spool?
Thanks for the update, I'm about to place an order for the diy long cast
How light you looking to throw?
I have some small 1/8 spinnerbait from bomber that I can only throw with my spinning reel.
Also if possible some 1/16th roostertails. Not necessary but if I can just take my baitcaster as my do all setup. It will make carrying gear for quick after work trips much easier
I feel I take up a lot of time setting up and managing multiple setups whereas I would like to just take my baitcaster and travel rod and swap out spools as I need to.
Looking at getting the hedgehog bearings too btw and the long cast diy spool
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 10, 2017, 01:08:50 PM
Rick did you upgrade your casting bearings?
Would upgrading casting bearings affect the ability to throw light lures on this spool?
Thanks for the update, I'm about to place an order for the diy long cast
Yes my reel has ZR Bearings. So my comparison is based on my stock spool with the bearing upgrade compared to the DIY Long Cast (and make sure you get the long cast and not the microcast) with the upgraded bearings.
I would suspect without the bearing upgrade, you would still get a longer cast out of the DIY spool than the stock spool.
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 10, 2017, 01:53:03 PM
I have some small 1/8 spinnerbait from bomber that I can only throw with my spinning reel.
Also if possible some 1/16th roostertails. Not necessary but if I can just take my baitcaster as my do all setup. It will make carrying gear for quick after work trips much easier
I feel I take up a lot of time setting up and managing multiple setups whereas I would like to just take my baitcaster and travel rod and swap out spools as I need to.
Looking at getting the hedgehog bearings too btw and the long cast diy spool
I can't really tell you how those would do on the reel or spool. Have you tried them on the stock spool? What is your result?
I throw 1/16oz bullet weight with a finesse worm a decent distance.
I also use 1/8oz bullet weights for my uvibes and those go a long way.
But that's different than a spinnerbait that isn't aerodynamic.
Oh lol I haven't even tried it yet on my tatula
I did on my black Max with 8# copoly and it went nowhere..maybe 10 feet on the cast lol
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 10, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Oh lol I haven't even tried it yet on my tatula
I did on my black Max with 8# copoly and it went nowhere..maybe 10 feet on the cast lol
Well that's embarrassing lol.
Going to hit up a local pond to test out my tatula as is
I'll even try to dropshot with it
Haven't installed casting bearings yet so we shall see
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 10, 2017, 04:41:17 PM
Going to hit up a local pond to test out my tatula as is
I'll even try to dropshot with it
Haven't installed casting bearings yet so we shall see
I threw a weightless uvibe today on the Tatula CT Long Cast DIY Spool. Not sure what one of them weighs but they aren't heavy. I was able to cast it roughly 86 feet which is about 29 yards. That was with brakes set to 10.
My 1/2oz spinnerbait was nearly unspooling the entire spool.
I was using a Cabela's arachnid rod which is rated MH F, and up to 5/8oz
Hmm i didn't have as much success as you, I got 30 feet tops at brakes set to 12. Any lighter I would backlash
Threw on medium fast daiwa ardito
I think it was my line though, 12 lb copoly. Had kvd line conditioner but still lots of memory.
Switching to a light braid to see if that works.
Quote from: DinksAllDay on July 11, 2017, 12:25:00 PM
Hmm i didn't have as much success as you, I got 30 feet tops at brakes set to 12. Any lighter I would backlash
Threw on medium fast daiwa ardito
I think it was my line though, 12 lb copoly. Had kvd line conditioner but still lots of memory.
Switching to a light braid to see if that works.
I was throwing 20lb senshi mono which is diameter of 12lb mono
Quote from: rickdelprado on July 05, 2017, 08:34:35 AM
So I'd like to update this after using the spool for about 3 hours yesterday.
I really liked the long cast DIY spool. Unlike the microcast spool this one is easier to control. The thing actually casts better than the stock Type R spool. It was bombing the 1oz 110 whopper plopper nearly unspooling entirely with mono. So I had to be careful.
Then I went lighter, and tied on a 1/8oz bullet weight with a uvibe and this thing launched it effortlessly.
Wasn't getting any bites so I downsized some more. Went to a 1/16oz and a uvibe and was casting just as far as I was with the 1/8.
Then I tried the 1/16 with a finesse worm and again like a bullet.
Went to a fluke with a 1/32 oz weight and had no issue casting that, then a weightless fluke and still no issue casting that. I was getting about the same if not more distance out of this than I would have out of my spinning outfit.
The other thing is I had the brakes set to 10 which is higher than I normally would set them to and I had my spool tension tighter than usual too. When I put them down to 8 I needed to feather the spool a little more but got even more distance.
I'm sure that with some more fine tuning of the tension and brakes I can get even more distance out of it while still maintaining control of the spool.
I also cast into the wind for a while and it performed very well though wind wasn't too bad.
Very impressed with this spool.
I had a couple of overruns but they weren't bad when I cast without using the thumb just to see how it would work. Usually it worked itself out and caught up with itself.
Very light thumbing really worked well.
Nice report. Thank you. I'm always looking to make my casting easier and casts longer. This spool sounds like a winner.
So far for me it is. Both on the CT and the Regular Tat Type R.
The DIY Long Cast does what it says.
Just a quick update
My hlc long cast spool came in for my tat ct...spooled with 12 lb copoly.
It is definitely lighter and once dialed in settings (I have to use a higher brake setting for this spool- like 12+ to maintain control)
boy it is fun to bomb lol and most importantly easy to cast.
Caught a few on it, the biggest weighed 2.6 pounds. And no issues so far.
I'm happy to say I can dropshot and throw little rapalas on it (estimating 25 yards) but I think I need a lighter rod in order get good distance on it
So I have 30lb braid on my stock spook and 12 lb copoly on my hlc spool. I think this can work to cover most of my needs, swapping out whatever spool as needed.
Thanks to the guys who helped me out