I have been reading up on this line since ICAST and decided to take a gamble. Bought a spool of 15# to compare to Seaguar InvisX in 15#.
As anyone tried it yet? Its supposed to be slicker, increased abrasion resistance and increased longevity. Same price as InvisX but 25 yards more. Means I should have to back my Core with mono and still get two spoolings.
Sounds alot like Seaguar Tatsu but without the 40 dollar price tag
Interested on what you find, I run a lot of invizx and abrazx.
Quote from: earldogg on July 31, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
Interested on what you find, I run a lot of invizx and abrazx.
Tackle Tour gave it a 7.8ish. Said the lab test didn't excite them on abrasion resistance but it was just a test spool. They scored it low as it didn't come in under 8#. I'm excited to try it.
I've heard a lot about Sunline Sniper but not the Assassin yet. Please let us know what you find.
I use a lot of sniper, and the gave me a spool of assassin to try. Still sitting on my desk as my back has kept me down. But gonna give it a go tomorrow...
Quote from: Mike Cork on August 01, 2015, 09:51:01 AM
I use a lot of sniper, and the gave me a spool of assassin to try. Still sitting on my desk as my back has kept me down. But gonna give it a go tomorrow...
What pound?
I use Sniper 16# on my shaky head set up, and it will always be on there ~c~ ~c~ Feels great and can handle the river crap you run into on the cuts ;D
Quote from: Lee Smith on August 01, 2015, 04:33:01 PM
I use Sniper 16# on my shaky head set up, and it will always be on there ~c~ ~c~ Feels great and can handle the river crap you run into on the cuts ;D
This will be my first time using Sunline fluoro. I'm pretty excited to give it a shot. I think you know what rod this will be used on ;)
I'm curious to see what the memory left on the Assassin line is like. If its like invisx I may switch over
Quote from: Drake691 on August 02, 2015, 10:03:52 AM
I'm curious to see what the memory left on the Assassin line is like. If its like invisx I may switch over
One of the big reasons I want to try it. I hate memory and while InvisX is decent, its still not the best.
I've found sniper to be the best in all categories for me and what I fish. Keep in mind there are no rocks in Louisiana and the few we have get a crank bait tossed at them. So I don't have good abrasion tests.
I forgot the 12# assassin on the desk, gonna have to wait a bit... ~b~
I just spooled up a Core with 15#. I soaked this in KVD line conditioner. This feels like a steel cord :shocking: I have no doubt this will have some awesome abrasion resistance though.
I run either 14 or 16# Sunline Super Sniper FC on every spinning reel I own, all are 2508 size Daiwa reels and they handle that line easily. I don't like the 2500's as much as their spools have way too much line capacity for me. The Sniper to date is by far the best line I have found for my purposes. I fish the Calif. Delta waters almost exclusively and have caught a number of over 10 up to 15# largemouth in there, that's why I use line that heavy. Have tried braid a number of times and just can't get used to it. That Assasin intrigue's me and looking forward to hearing from guys that have tried it - compared to Sniper?
Ive got some 25# on the way for flipping. Need to find an alternative to Shooter.
I tried some Tatsu in 20# for a few trips...was not impressed at all given the price tag and the hype.
One trick is to stretch out the line. I can run heavy flip line much longer if I stretch it. Quality line works with this method...not so much the cheap stuff.
I'm curious to see how people like.it....personally I like sniper,although assassin is cheaper,it's also thicker in diameter..
I am looking for an alternative to Shooter specifically.
I love Sniper, just isn't tough enough for some of the flipping I do.
Looking forward to trying it. I use Sniper and it is going to be hard to beat. I was using Trilene XT 14 lb test. 20 lb. Sniper is thinner than 14lb Trilene XT.
I went ahead and spooled it up it up on the 31st. I have only made a few casts in the front yard due to work and the heat, but so far I don't see memory from sitting on the the reel without being used. Its been dosed with KVD line stuff too.
Hey Mike, with your back being all wonky, feel free to send anything you need tested up my way. Since I was a meteorologist in the USAF, I am therefore a scientist, and will perform all tests very scientifically (wink wink). I would write a hypothesis and a conclusion for each test ran...
Really, I would...one old warrior to another...
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OK...got delayed on the Assasin coming in. Ill have it in a few days....be putting it to work right away. Ive got fish in deep brush located for past 2 weeks. Ill have a report this coming weekend. Hopefully with a 5-7lb fish on the end of it. I need to cull some 5lbers in my total
Mike,
I am stoked to hear about your experience with it!
Any word if they are going to offer this in the 660 yard spools?
I haven't heard anything yet. I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Shooter wasn't available in the big spools until they changed to the 3 line choices...that I knew of anyway.
OK...first reports of two days of fishing.
With just two days on the water and fresh line, this will be slightly premature but will give a great baseline.
25# line, spooled on two setups. Dobyns DX 705C and DX 745C.
I caught probably 40 fish between the two setups using 1/2oz jig with trailer and 3/8 and 5/8 oz T rigs.
Line was very smooth for both days. Very impressive actually for being 25#...almost like 16lb Sniper. Very easy to handle, minimal coiling. Line seemed very abrasion resistant, as I was in trees all day. No breakoffs due to nicks in the line (had several). I did not retie on purpose to see what would happen and to determine the ability to set the hook with less than perfect line....cause sometimes we get lazy.
I tied a modified snell on the T rigs and a Trilene on the jig. I did hang up a few times, and tried to break off...never happened. Lures came out without breaking, so I didnt get a good comparison vs. the Shooter that I usually use. It did hold well from the pulling I did do though. Wasnt full bore "Im snagged" scenarios though.
Overall, with only two days on the water with the line, I will say I am impressed so far. Given what line I flip with (Shooter), it is a tough task to compete with. Given the pricepoint, and first impressions...very much an option for me. I will continue to use the line and see what kind of longevity it has and how it resists coiling down the road. I do have a little trick to keep those heavy lines straightened out, lets just see how long it takes before I need to use it...and how long I can keep the line usable.
Ill report again after each week using it. ~cf
Thanks for your report Mike.
I have two full days of fishing it. I only caught two fish total, but one was in about 5-6 pounds of cooked spinach. No break offs and never found any issues with abrasion either.
I tried your trick after each outing with about 75 yards being pulled out and stretched. So far it seems to be handling up well. Im at exactly 30 days with it being spooled up. Line memory is still pretty low. First pitch or cast shows some memory, but then it straightens out well.
It seems to be taking the KVD very well too. I have also noticed that I have a noticeable amount of increased sensitivity with it over InvizX.
That sounds good. I am hoping it can replace my flipping type setups at the minimum. Shooter is just damn expensive.
I had good sensitivity with mine as well. Im a Sunline guy anyway, so my comparison is to Shooter, which isn't exactly fair. But given its about half the price...very viable option.
I do fish my finger on the line as it comes in the spool , so I get to feel about anything the lures touch.
After the first weekend impressions only, I would not hesitate to use it as my flipping/bottom contact line. I will keep testing though. One weekend is not enough by any means.
I just ordered a spool in 10# to try with Weightless Plastics. Looking forward to the smaller line to see how supple it is compared to Inviz-X. 10# Inviz-X is about as soft as silk too.
Caught about 20 more this weekend on it. Same deal...deep fish in brush. Only fished on Saturday...spent time with family the rest.
I will have some more coming this week. Temps are dropping fast here, highs were mid 90s last week and into weekend. We have lows in the 50s this week. Hopefully it will push some fish a bit shallower as the lakes turn. Should get a flip bite going...I hope.
River needs to get going too...would save me about 45 minutes a day driving as its down the hill from me.
More updates.
I haven't taken the line off yet. Fished Federation State this weekend with original line. Had some minor coiling with it, but nothing horrible by any means. I didn't even stretch the line.
Caught about 30 fish total on the one setup I used. I fished rocks, docks and pilings with it. Setup was a Dobyns DX 745 HP with the same 25# Assasin with a 5/8 Elite Tungsten and a D Bomb.
Zero break offs with the line. I even fished stupid for a little while with a few bad knicks in the line and still didn't lose a fish. Not the smartest move in any tournament...let alone Fed State.
Im not giving this line a full pass just yet. It has proven its worth for the most part, I just want to see how much longevity I can get out of the original spool fill. Ill stretch and spray until I feel it needs to come off. Im just glad I started this thread so I can track how long Ive had it on.
I ordered a spool of 20 lb about a month ago. It is pretty similar to other lines as far as castability. The major problem I've had with it is that it has broken 3 times on 2 different trips. That never happens with invizx or sniper. For me at least, it was a failed experiment.
Quote from: 518 on October 04, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
I ordered a spool of 20 lb about a month ago. It is pretty similar to other lines as far as castability. The major problem I've had with it is that it has broken 3 times on 2 different trips. That never happens with invizx or sniper. For me at least, it was a failed experiment.
What kind of break offs? Just totally random on hooksets or against pilings or rocks or what?
Ive had several guys tell me they break off and they actually tie a bad knot and it comes out. Not saying this is your issue, but 20lb line of any kind shouldnt just break.
2 on hookset and one reeling in a fish. I use 20 lb invizx and never, ever break it so it's not a knot issue (lol) . Have used sniper and never had a problem with it either. It is an issue with the assassin, or at least the spool that I bought.
What are you doing with the bad spool? You contact Sunline or just trashing it?
I tried it on 2 different reels, so there was only a little left, but yes I did dispose of it.
Mike I have found your post very interesting. I also use Shooter but as you said it's pricey so I will be following your report. Thanks for the info.
Quote from: Sc Bassin on October 07, 2015, 10:55:55 AM
Mike I have found your post very interesting. I also use Shooter but as you said it's pricey so I will be following your report. Thanks for the info.
Thanks. I think I will get out this Friday and the weekend some as well. Might give it a stretch and see how she feels.
Shooter is just damn expensive. Great line...but I flip a lot and actually use quite a bit even with the large amount of backer I have on my reels.
Another update. Did my line stretching trick on Saturday and fished Sunday. Line stayed fairly limp all day. Never sprayed. We have been having temps into the 40s and night and 80s in the day and rods are in the boat, so the line is being subjected to the temp swings.
Caught about a dozen or so, nothing big.
Same thing this past weekend, without the stretching trick...and no spray.
Had a little coiling going on, but nothing that was too annoying to stretch out. So far, it is proving its worth in the 25#.
I just got 2 spools gonna wait till spring to use it. ??? 12lb for my jig Rod and 8lb for leader on my Shakey head combo. I really want to try Shooter/Sniper it's not available in US yet as far as I know. A stiffer version of sniper I guess? If anyone has fished it would love to hear a comparison between that and Assassin.
Went out this Saturday and fished the river. Didnt stretch the line at all. Coiling wasnt too bad, about the same as the previous time. Fishing sucked a little bit though. Only a few dinks. Water is in the upper 40s here. Ill have to drive south to keep fishing.
I think overall its proved its worth. Ill keep testing of course. I think spring fishing should give the final verdict on it.
I would like to test some smaller tests though. Anyone who is using 12# and lower, feel free to tag on to this thread.
does it have the same memory characteristics as invizx?
I've been fishing the 12lb. for several months on 3 different rods. Overall its been good.
It's a few bucks cheaper than sniper and you get 225 yds vs 200.It's a little thicker in diameter than sniper.
I think Invizx is a bit more manageable and has a bit more stretch than assassin.
I had to finally pull the 15 pound off my Core. I've been stretching it and treating it each trip. Last Sunday I spent more time trying to control the spool than I wanted. I ended up throwing my swims on my 873 to finish the evening.
That said, I had zero problems with fraying, break offs or knot problems. I was pretty impressed. I just think 15# is too heavy for extended use. I had this line drug around timber and rocks each trip too.
I will replace it with 12# soon and give it a longer run. I found two new spools of 12# green FC Shooter for around 15 bucks so I'll use it first.
I did buy a couple of spools of 10# Assassin and so far am loving the low memory. I've got it on two rigs. Jerkbaits and Senkos. No memory so far.
Thanks for the update RC
I could see that 15 getting beat up a bit. I try not to mess with 16# Sniper around rock or wood too much.
I want to try some lighter weights on cranks.
I like the 10# more than InVizx so far. I will probably replace all rigs with it this spring.
Good deal. Ill move a few more setups to it as well. 25 more yards than Sniper and a few $$ cheaper.
Quote from: Mike Bush on November 17, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
Good deal. Ill move a few more setups to it as well. 25 more yards than Sniper and a few $$ cheaper.
Much less stretch too.
Quote from: rockchalk06 on November 18, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Much less stretch too.
You feel Assassin has less stretch than Sniper?
Quote from: kiddelicious on November 18, 2015, 08:42:55 PM
You feel Assassin has less stretch than Sniper?
I meant less stretch than Invisz. My bad
I was going to say....Sniper has pretty low stretch in higher lbs.
RC...I think you should buy my boat. Ill leave some line and a few rods in it...
Went out this past weekend and used the same line....very surprised it didnt suck at this point in the year. Caught two small fish on 1/2oz Ike jigs in 44* water. No KVD spray either.
I would say that I will buy more. I really expected to have to stretch the line to get it manageable...even tolerable for the day.