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Title: Frog Rods?
Post by: B1gBa55 on June 06, 2007, 09:37:57 PM
I often fish top water with frogs and during a tournament this past weekend I had a large number of misses. Sometimes its a matter of using the right equipment to increase your hook ups. After some research I have become aware that there are rods specifically designed for fishing Frogs.

I see that there is a G-Loomis and Team Diawa 'Frog' rod.

Does anyone have experience with these 'Frog' rods?  ....Can you suggest a 'frog' rod that I should look at?
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Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: GotstaFish on June 07, 2007, 12:32:02 AM
Jeez Mike, now you know I love my frogs and you didn't even bother to ask me  :'( Sorry you missed those fish, heck, sorry I missed them  lo
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: coldfront on June 07, 2007, 06:56:56 AM
B1,
do a search on 'froggin'...I started a thread a few days ago that covers some of the issues...but key in that thread is a response from Baron who put out a shout for a Kistler rod (7'3" heavy action)...I looked it up...retails around $149 and looks like a great option with regard to jigs etc as well...

I'm using Cabelas XML rods (7 foot heavy action)...but I've always thought real hard about the Kistlers...

The other key:  if you're not using braid, I'd really suggest you do...it only took me about 3 years of thinking about it before I spooled it up...for this application (frogs on top) it's a must...and by the way, I set the hook on the strike...I don't 'wait to feel the fish'...hook ups are 80% or more...if the fish gets the frog, I get the hook set...

Good luck...
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: jstrozier on June 07, 2007, 07:15:09 AM
Daiwa FROG ROD!!!!!!!
Got em, love em..... for flippin and froggin  ~shade
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: pretjah on June 07, 2007, 09:07:01 AM
just a point of view from me....

i like a heavy ( or possibly MH if it's pretty heavy for a MH) action 7 foot rod with a bit of a fast tip for casting.


basically if you can find a rod you like that has ALOT of backbone and a decent tip for casting  it will work well!
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: Railroader on June 07, 2007, 01:35:56 PM
 I have no problem with rods when throwing a ribbit, this past weekend i tried the spro frog but i couldnt get the action i wanted, i guess you could use a medium action for topwater? i will have to look but i think i was using a MH 6'6
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: SkeeterBoy on June 07, 2007, 04:00:32 PM
If you are currently using a 6'6" rod or longer in a MH or H action Then the rod is not your problem.  Keep in mind when frog fishing you have to give the fish a couple extra seconds to eat it compared to other baits.  I am currenlty using a cheap shimano convergence that is 6'6" long and it has a MH action.  I never miss a hookup as long as I give the fish time to take it.  Practice counting 3-5 seconds after the initial strike and I promise your hookups will go way up.  No since spending 200.00 on a rod when it is not necessary.  Just my .02.
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: coldfront on June 07, 2007, 06:07:03 PM
Skeeterboy, I've yet to miss a fish that 'gets' the frog...even though I hit em as soon as I can...

But one of the things I really, really like about froggin'...even when that bass misses, you can toss back in and they'll hit it...not always the case with other lures...but they really 'commit' to frogs...
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: GotstaFish on June 07, 2007, 06:25:27 PM
I'd have to say wait the 2-3 seconds also. I am an avid frog fisherman and setting the hook too soon is the biggest mistake I see most beginners make.
A 7' to 7'6" MH fast tip is my rod of choice. Currently I am using a Quarrow Green Country 7'2" MH Fast tip with a Batam Curado 200B spooled with 50# Power Pro and this is the sweetest frog rod I have ever thrown.
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: Railroader on June 08, 2007, 07:33:31 AM
Quote from: Railroader on June 07, 2007, 01:35:56 PM
I have no problem with rods when throwing a ribbit, this past weekend i tried the spro frog but i couldnt get the action i wanted, i guess you could use a medium action for topwater? i will have to look but i think i was using a MH 6'6
Im not having problems with hook ups. but fishing the spro frog i couldnt get it to walk the dog? if thats how you work it. i might try a medium and see if that works.
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: pretjah on June 08, 2007, 07:46:12 AM
i dont know many people who walk the dog with the spro or scum style frogs!!!

i think they are good with a small jerk so the nose rises out and slaps the scum or water as it rocks back down!
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: Dug on June 08, 2007, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: Ka to the Ru on June 07, 2007, 06:25:27 PM
I'd have to say wait the 2-3 seconds also. I am an avid frog fisherman and setting the hook too soon is the biggest mistake I see most beginners make.
A 7' to 7'6" MH fast tip is my rod of choice. Currently I am using a Quarrow Green Country 7'2" MH Fast tip with a Batam Curado 200B spooled with 50# Power Pro and this is the sweetest frog rod I have ever thrown.

Was that a good price on that Quarrow Green? Would you say it's better equal to or not quite as nice as the crucials you have?  I been looking at getting a heavier baitcaster rod.

Dug
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: GotstaFish on June 08, 2007, 11:59:50 AM
The quarrow was a gift from a close friend so I really don't know the cost. I also use a 7'6" MH Crucial as a back-up rod and there is little difference.
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: Dug on June 08, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
Thanks I will look into them and see.  Can you pass along a model number when you get the chance. No hurry, I ain't buying for a week or 3.

Dug
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: GotstaFish on June 08, 2007, 05:44:20 PM
Quote from: Dug on June 08, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
Thanks I will look into them and see.  Can you pass along a model number when you get the chance. No hurry, I ain't buying for a week or 3.

Dug
The Shimano Crucial is Model# CRC X76MH
Thae Quarrow Green Country # GC 726TF
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: coldfront on June 09, 2007, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Railroader on June 08, 2007, 07:33:31 AM
Im not having problems with hook ups. but fishing the spro frog i couldnt get it to walk the dog? if thats how you work it. i might try a medium and see if that works.

Railroader:  a tip from BASS Insider a few weeks back on ESPN...use a scissors and cut one 'leg' just a bit shorther than the other...really supposed to help them turn better for the side to side 'come-hither-sa-shay' big bass seem to like... 
Title: Re: Frog Rods?
Post by: B1gBa55 on June 11, 2007, 10:12:02 PM
Thanks for all the feedback.

Sorry Karl, didn't mean to skip over you. I already know what rods you use for Frogs.

I was hoping to get some suggestions on a few more specific rods. A friend of mine has an older model of the Team Diawa road (Light and Tough, heavy) and loves it. I personally am a fan of the Shimanos and found the model #CRC-X72H which is a 7' 2" Extra Heavy.  I don't mind spending the money but have found that I don't know if I like a rod until I have used it a few times and don't want to spend $160 on something that I wont use.