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Title: Truman Role Call
Post by: Allen on March 25, 2011, 09:41:53 AM
Who all is making the trek to Truman?

I think there are 4 or 5 boats from Southwest making the 975 mile drive.

1950 miles @ 15 mpg * $4.15/gallon diesel = $540.00 + registration + boat gas + lodging:  All for the chance to spend more money at the next tournament.  When did I lose my mind?
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: coloradoman25 on March 25, 2011, 10:49:52 AM
Im coming from San Antonio...

1560 miles@14 mpg *3.79/gallon gas+200 registration++++++...Still cheaper for me ~b~  ALL FOR A CHANCE TO FISH WYOMING...did I mention Falcon and Amistad are less than 4 hours away from me lol
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Camden on March 25, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Well good news is if you have to fill up in missouri diesel is running about 3.79 and gas around 3.30-3.40 range
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Allen on March 25, 2011, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: Camden on March 25, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
Well good news is if you have to fill up in missouri diesel is running about 3.79 and gas around 3.30-3.40 range

Hot dam.....things are looking up!!!!
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on March 27, 2011, 09:33:42 AM
1340 miles round trip from Colorado Springs.  Can fill up here for $3.29 a gallon.  Will guess $3.60 average x 15 mpg x 1,340 = $322 divided by 2 = $161 for the trip for fuel.  Add to that $236 for the entry fee.  7 nights motel, meals, boat gas, fishing license ... I am guessing $700 will cover everything unless I need to go to Bass Pro in Springfield.

Looking out the window...fog, can't see a block away.  Snow on the ground.  31 degrees.  Great fishing weather.

Heard through the grape vine about 24 have signed up so far.  Lets go fishing.
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on March 27, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Just got my missouri fishing license on-line.  A 5 day non-resident is $36.  Here is the link

http://www.takemefishing.org/fishing/license/location/state/MO
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Camden on March 27, 2011, 11:44:12 AM
yep Mike Missouri just incorporated the online licenses.

here is a live link directly to the Missouri Dept Of Conservations online permits

https://www2.mo.wildlifelicense.com/start.php (https://www2.mo.wildlifelicense.com/start.php)
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on April 03, 2011, 02:46:55 PM
Well, since my last post regular unleaded has jumped to $3.39 and expected to go up another seven or eight cents a gallon by next weekend.  It is what it is and I am still very excited to be going.

I am; however, getting pretty dis-enchanted with the way this tournament is being handled.  Here we are a week away and still no roster.  I know, for a fact, Larry Krueger has been stone walled at even getting the federation computer, scales, tanks, and everything else needed for this tournament.

Larry offered to step in when our VP and tournament director let everyone know he would not be attending the STQT.  Now it looks like he will have to drive to Fort Collins to pick up the stuff.  That's like an extra 200 miles and four hours of his time. Come on guys...that isn't fair.

Also looks like there are not very many from the northern part of the state participating this year.  I can understand the economy, work considerations, and other family obligations can cause some problems but this is a once a year event and creates a pathway to the divisionals, national championship, and even the Classic.  It's pretty sad we can't support the federation better than this.

Rant over.
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: CHRISMAZICH on April 04, 2011, 08:23:27 AM
I tell you guys,this driving all the way to Mo isnt cheep,  the way the economey is,gas prices,jobs, All im going to say is that if the federation was closer to home we would have more then 12 boats, we probally need to focus fishing closer to our home waters... just my 02. cents , not everybody has 1500.00 just sitting there to throw away,  fishing is not cheep by any means.  also if we fished in colorado it would help our economey and also possibly make coloradons aware of the federation...
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: BassinColorado on April 04, 2011, 09:00:19 AM
Chris has a point.  The same point made by others every so often.  Could it be time again to look at a 3 tournament circuit---take your best two?  Have one tournament at Navajo or Powell, then one at Pueblo, then one at Ute.  Should have at least 12 at Navajo, then at least 12 at Pueblo, then those that feel they are in contention would attend Ute---could be upwards of 30 boats, maybe.  Tie breakers will have to be determined, but not as much a problem as one might think.

That would be a minimum attendace of at least 36 boats throughout the season, boosting the pay for state team members for the Divisional, to something more of yesteryear.  There can also be a payout at the tournaments, as described in detail in one of my past proposals to the CBF about a circuit of sorts, while still providing more than usual monies for the state team members going to the Divisional.  Still sounds like a no-brainer...even today.

Folks aren't self-employed as much as they were a few years ago.  Getting time off for "a week of fishing" from a "regular job," isn't so realistic when guys only have so much time to spend with their families on vacations.  Travel and overnight stays would not be as much a problem in a circuit type format, because guys wouldn't have to find an "entire week" to get vacation time.  Folks would be able to regulate their expenses, as to how far they can go into the circuit, attending only two tournaments closer to home, or fishing all three as they choose.   

A circuit type format can make participating in the CBF, and the final tournament of the season, pretty darn exciting again.  Maybe it is now time to look at the old proposals again! 
Oh look!  :o  Four years later I still have mine saved on the computer!  :shocking:
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on April 04, 2011, 09:54:08 AM
Why not just throw everyone's name into a hat and draw out 12 for the state team?  Because it is supposed to be the best 12 from the state for the state team.

The reason we do a five day event is several fold.  First, it is similar to what occurs at the divisionals.  As if I would know...in 14 years have never even come close to making it.  I participate to support the state team.

A one week event was decided on because the series of three didn't work well.  Good attendance at the first, less at the second., and way down for the 3rd.  Joe's proposal might solve that problem but it's still three tournaments.  That poses scheduling problems, actually takes more time away from home and work, and costs as much or more.

Why do we travel all over the freakin country?  Because Colorado isn't exactly over run with bass.  Everyone wanted to fish waters that produce better catches and approximate what the divisionals would be like.  Just look at results over the last 10 years.  Could we do that in Colorado?  Also look at what happened when we decided to have the tournament closer.  Cedar Bluffs wasn't a huge success.

What we need is for the chapters to promote the Federation and the STQT more.  Seems to me some are more interested in other circuits or activities rather than our STQT.  We also need Federation Officers who actively promote  and encourage our anglers to fish the STQT.  Sorry, guys...but we have dropped the ball in that area.

I was told when I first joined Pikes Peak Bassmasters..."bass fishing isn't a cheap sport".  I have also said our members only have so much money and so much time to spend on fishing.  Having two federations and two other active tournament circuits doesn't help BASS, the Colorado Bass Federation, or our local chapters.  Too much competition out there.  It's a fact of life, I can't change it.  Would I if I could?  Probably, because I believe in BASS, the Colorado Federation, and my local chapter.

OK guys, if you want to make changes...lets start by building up the federation.  It looks like there will be a number of board positions coming up for election this year.  Lets start there and then build on getting more chapter involvement at the meetings.  Next, lets work on a really great STQT whether it be in a distant state on quality water or here in Colorado where the fishing is tougher.  It's up to you.
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: BassinColorado on April 05, 2011, 12:37:03 AM
Well, first of all, it isn't three tournaments for everyone.  It is only three tournaments "for those that choose!"  You could make the team, or feel comfortable enough to think you have made the team, in two of the three tournaments, if you made that decision for yourself. 

The Federation would still have a minimum 36 boat count by the end of the season, creating a better pot for the state team, "with a payout to boot." You would also have "the more consistant fishermen in the state for that year," rise to the top, as they always do in a circuit format.  All of these benefiting the Federation and completing our final objectives in the end........I would think.
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: CHRISMAZICH on April 05, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
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I agree with Joe, We should try something differnt then what we have been doing, He has a great idea, also like he said id rather fish closer to home,  I dont get that much time off, to just take a week off from my job,  3 tournments would make it easier for me to fish every year. I would think also you would have a better state team at divisionals...
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: coloradoman25 on April 07, 2011, 11:56:35 PM
Youll get some more dedicated guys, youll lose some contributors, and in the end itll cost the same just not in one chunk.  And then youll have guys that dont know if they can commit to all three so they wont even fish one.  If I have something come up and cannot attend one I risk losing what I paid for in the first place.  Someone could jump past my accomplishment if I recall this format correctly.  To me I love to fish em all but I would think to a few guys looking at it they would feel obligated to attend all 3 or none.  We have done this over and over.  I did the math breakdown last time just go back a few years.  I broke it down as far as oil on the average boat last time.

Yall can do what ya want if I dont make this team Ill fish Texas next year, as it stood I didnt have a choice but if you keep it the way it is and its not going further west, ill likely keep attending.  Hmm...maybe that will motivate some to move it way west and make it 3 tournaments  ~shhh

Maybe you can bring this up at the next fed meeting....... ~roflmao   bad joke too soon?  :help:

Sorry but I just cant help but post on this topic...I really tried...
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on April 08, 2011, 06:50:02 AM
Just out of curiosity...what are the odds of making the state team in Texas?  You have a really good shot again this year in Colorado.  Attendance is just a little less than last year at Havasu.  Lots of names I don't recognize also.
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: Mike Garrett on April 08, 2011, 10:26:32 AM
15 boats and counting PoPo
Title: Re: Truman Role Call
Post by: coloradoman25 on April 08, 2011, 11:35:40 AM
Its harder here I would imagine since theres 40000000X the guys lol.  I would have fished here but being that I qualified for this years divisional and texas qualifies for the same year that wouldnt be allowed.  Guess you cant fish a western and central or something to that effect.  That was what I was told anyway.  And I like fishin with some of yall gives me excuses to see old friends.  I also am going to Table rock a week after we go here so I will be leaving my boat and doing some scounting.  Basically I would have been driving up to prepre anyway so this is just something else to do on the way