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Title: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 06, 2021, 10:46:20 PM
An aluminum "bass boat" owner, I mean. Or at least I will be. When I get it done. Or something.

With my lack of fishing time and no real end to too much work in sight, I decided that another bass boat will have to wait. So I bought a 15' Lowe Jon boat the other day from a neighbor and friend. I knew the first and previous owner too. The boat really has very little use and looks good except for the fact that it's been setting for 7 or 8 years with that many years worth of leaves and acorns in it also.

In the last week I've found time to clean it out; I've unbolted and unriveted a bunch of stuff as these guys were catfishermen. Anchors, a junk Humminbird, weird cleats, rollers, and both seats are gone. I began to build a deck today- half of the boat will be a flippin' platform because I'm too old to stand in the bottom of a boat, below the water line.

The motor is a 15 hp Evinrude, which were pretty decent in the day ('97 or '98 I think). The gas line had been unhooked but he couldn't remember if the fuel had been ran out. The gas left in the tank looked like a science project gone wrong and smelled even worse. Apparently it had been run out however because the durn thing started on the SIXTH pull (it has a starter but the button is stuck). Sounded great. So, plugs, water pump, lower unit fluid, clean out what's left of a massive mouse nest (they didn't chew thru anything important), and fix that starter button. New fuel line and primer bulb. Then find a deal on a 25. Or not- I'm not planning on keeping this thing forever, or spending tons on it. Except..

I had some 3/4" plywood. Not enough, so I bought another sheet today. Jayzus. What a stupid world we live in.

And by the way, I priced doing everything in ALUMINUM. Holy mother.

Anyway, I bought a new trolling motor. A new battery. I'll still need a cranking battery. I ordered side loading bunks (it'll make life easier), two new tires & wheels (they look great, but they've been setting for a long time, and I know how THAT story goes), a jack stand (no way will I have a trailer without one), and a new Garmin 93sv will be here in a couple of days. I'll need to paint the deck and flooring. I'll need carpet and glue. I'll build in some storage. I need some sort of rod tie downs (I don't think Rod Buckles will work here!) and trailer tie downs. I'll put in a cooler for a livewell in case I decide to go for a mess of crappie or bream (I did this a few times last year and it was so, so good).

I already have a trolling motor tray that I'll recess just like the REAL bass boats. I also have a bilge pump and an automatic switch that will be perfect. The boat has running lights that I'll re-engineer, and I'll probably do some interior lighting in case I decide to venture forth after the sun goes down. Obviously there will be some wiring to rig up. Oh yeah- I'll need to rewire the trailer plug for my Chevy... And while I'm on the trailer and giving it new shoes to stand on, I'll do the bearings too (bought Bearing Buddies yesterday).

So there you go. Why? you might ask. Here's an older guy who's owned and been sponsored in bass boats up to and including 21'. A Jon boat?

Well, it's mostly due to time constraints. You see, there's this deal called "IBass Gold" and it has a weird rule (the VERTS rule?) that says you have to fish public waters. No farm ponds. And while I have a kayak (love my kayak!) and a regular 15' Jon boat (old and NARROW), I want the comfort of a big platform to fish from. So because of this UB "IBass Gold" I've had to fall back and punt. It'll work, because I don't need fancy. I've never seen a boat catch a bass yet. Watch and see what I can do out of my little aluminum "bass boat".

If I can get the titles and the basic stuff done I may put this thing on the water later this week. Maybe. It of course won't be finished, but like most of my life it'll be a work-in-progress. We'll see. It's freakin' April, and I can SMELL 'em. And they are BIG.

Peace.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: SteveTX on April 06, 2021, 11:04:24 PM
The extremes grown men will go to when it comes to something competitive.  lo To hell with logic, common sense, or the material winnings being valued at less than 1/10th of the investment to prove our abilities.  ~roflmao  I am building another Drag truck as we speak spending way more time and cash than I should acting like I am in my 20s again. I will never get 1/4 of my $, and none of my time back if I won every race this season.  lo

Congrats on the new boat. I like low maintenance aluminum boats. I was looking for a wide jon boat similar to what your doing when I stumbled into my boat.  Congrats again and good luck.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Princeton_Man on April 07, 2021, 05:42:55 AM
 ~c~
I sold my old Bass Tracker after I bought my Stratos. A big mistake! I miss having a tin boat.

A friend of mine just sold a rig similar to what you're putting together and I really wished I'd had the cash on hand to buy it. Those 15' Jon boats let you fish a lot of unpressured water that the big glass boats can't get to and that's often were the hawgs are. Enjoy!
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Oldfart9999 on April 07, 2021, 07:12:35 AM
Pics, we need lots and lots of pics. Come on Dale, you know the rules, public waters and a ton of pics. lo
Rodney
PS Did I mention pics?
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Mike Cork on April 07, 2021, 08:04:27 AM
I love these kind of custom jobs. I caught more fish our of mine back in the day than I do now out of my gentle giant.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Donald Garner on April 07, 2021, 09:00:12 PM
Dale, tks for sharing this.  I had Flash Backs of Dec 2006 while reading this.   When I got my G3 1548 Alwed Jon boat.  It was a lot of fun doing just what you described> installing flooring, lights, batteries, etc, etc,.   Make sure you take some pictures of the boat.

Oh, congrats on the new fishing machine.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 07, 2021, 09:57:27 PM
I have fantasies of pulling up at a launch ramp and slapping down my entry fee. The looks on the faces of the other anglers. And the incredulous reactions to my big sack at the weigh in. It's not and never will be the boat that catches bass. Probably never going to happen, and IBass Gold will be as good as it gets.

The durn thing almost got blown away today with 70 mph winds.

I'm pretty certain that it'll be next week before I get it on the water The weather today and work & stuff got in the way, but the first parts did arrive. With some luck I'll get the bearings done tomorrow, new shoes put on, and the loading bunks. Then work at the restaurant throughout the weekend (I might take it up there and piddle when I get time, I want to go FISHING).

I'm going to get the deck and bracing in (the bracing may be the trickiest part), install the trolling motor and get all of the wiring run/rerun. Then I'll try it out. The paint/storage/carpet/etc. can wait a week or so. We'll see.

I'll take some pics, but this ain't nothin' fancy. Not at all. And until I get some bass slime on it it ain't nothin' but a boat. But after that happens, then it's MY boat.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 07, 2021, 11:21:08 PM
So I've been looking at SeaDek instead of carpet for my deck and floor. Any thoughts or ideas? Thanks.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Princeton_Man on April 08, 2021, 03:37:33 AM
I have a friend who used a textured OD green anti-skid paint on his casting deck as well as the aluminum surfaces.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 08, 2021, 09:46:19 AM
Well I like the idea of leaning towards the "quiet" factor.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 09, 2021, 10:02:13 AM
I ordered $327 worth of SeaDek flooring last night, It's only money, you can't take it with you, etc. etc.

The tires I ordered in are larger then the existing ones. I knew they would be, but I want good radials and it's the only way I could get them. I may have to move/modify the fenders. Fun stuff.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Wizard on April 09, 2021, 11:04:47 AM
Better read the new tin boat tip I posted in General Tips. You may need it.

Wizard
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 09, 2021, 05:58:19 PM
Thanks Wiz. I keep the drain plug on the inside of my Jon boats all of the time. And I WILL have a bilge pump. And if all else fails I'll just go down with the ship and sleep with the fishes.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 15, 2021, 03:57:47 PM
WIP...

(https://i.imgur.com/Tsc5OVM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OBd1OSW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PGFlTcr.jpg)
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Capt. BassinLou on April 15, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
It's coming along Dale, soon enough it will be a bass catching machine!!  ~c~
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Donald Garner on April 15, 2021, 05:51:30 PM
Hooah > A Army Thing < , I see a fun project fixing to begin.  Tks for sharing the pictures.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Oldfart9999 on April 16, 2021, 05:52:23 AM
Oh mama!!! That's a nice little package there, deck across the bow, built in storage, rod locker along the gunnel, 2 sonar units, 1 bow, 1 stern, Terrova mounted at the bow, 2 batteries mounted just in front of the middle seat, 2 power pole small vessel units, I'm in love!!!
Rodney
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 16, 2021, 01:50:59 PM
Wow Rodney. Just. Wow.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: FD on April 17, 2021, 05:36:42 AM
+++ on the SeaDek.  It is worth every penny I spent on mine.  Quiet and cool to the touch even on our 95* days.  It sticks best on a slick surface so you may want to paint the plywood with a good enamel paint before you put it down.

Since you are decking the front, you could probably mount the rod buckles cartridge underneath next to the gunwhales.

I would also put the TM battery forward of center under the deck.

FDx Custom Rods
Arti-FISH-ial Entertainment
CPF Lures

Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 17, 2021, 06:02:38 AM
+++ on the SeaDek.  It is worth every penny I spent on mine.  Quiet and cool to the touch even on our 95* days.  It sticks best on a slick surface so you may want to paint the plywood with a good enamel paint before you put it down.

Since you are decking the front, you could probably mount the rod buckles cartridge underneath next to the gunwhales.



I would also put the TM battery forward of center under the deck.

FDx Custom Rods
Arti-FISH-ial Entertainment
CPF Lures

All good stuff, sir. The first coat of paint is done- I'll probably do at least one, if not two more coats.

Why in the world would anyone want carpet in a boat? I didn't way back in 1990.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: SteveTX on April 19, 2021, 04:47:43 PM
At least it wasn’t that extra long shag.  lo lo
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 19, 2021, 09:13:02 PM
At least it wasn’t that extra long shag.  lo lo

1977Rangers & Champions...
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: SteveTX on April 19, 2021, 09:39:21 PM
At least it wasn’t that extra long shag.  lo lo

1977Rangers & Champions...
Oh my (https://i.imgur.com/JOSnEhA.gif)
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 20, 2021, 12:28:05 PM
Oh, that was "turf saver". What a great idea that was, too. At least it didn't hold water and rot...

My SeaDek came in yesterday. It was 70 degrees, sunny, and I was busy. It's 36 degrees outside right now and it's snowing. And I'm still busy.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: FishaHallic on April 21, 2021, 06:57:37 PM
Typical boater, get a new boat and start pouring money in it  lo. 
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Smallie_Stalker on April 21, 2021, 09:53:50 PM
Typical boater, get a new boat and start pouring money in it  lo.
You know what they say- B.O.A.T break out another thousand.

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Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 22, 2021, 09:33:43 PM
And a thousand or so ($1600???) is what I've spent so far. I don't plan on much more, that's not what this project is about.

I did mess with it some today. The jack stand is installed (makes it so much easier to move around). And I jacked up the starboard side and gave the wheel a spin. Smooth, and more importantly, it was QUIET. Still, I pulled the tire & wheel, and removed the hub. Pulled out the bearings and gave them the once over. They look fine. The seal also looks fine, so I'm going to leave it be. This will probably be my downfall.

Anyway, I had bought two new tires and wheels. The old ones are new as far as tread wear goes, but there is some light weather checking, and I most definitely know how THAT goes. I'll use the best one (port side) as a spare. These tires are larger because I wanted radials and the choices are slim. I figured that I would maybe have to do some clearance work, but after a test installation the fit was fine. Perfect.

Except.

I own cotter pins. All sizes. Dad gum. So tomorrow or this weekend I'll find them, or probably more likely buy some more. It's what we call here in the Sticks of Morgan County, MO "inventory".

So I left the boat for another day. We're back open for the weekend at our restaurant and work comes first, always.

I may do some painting tomorrow. It's supposed to rain, and I've got one coat of primer on one side of one piece of deck so far. There's another deck piece and the floor that needs paint. A coat or two and some drying time before installation next week (yep, next week, no matter what) would be good. I have an IBass GOLD tournament to think about.

Anyway, it's just a Jon boat. But it's MY Jon boat and I'm gonna give it all I've got. And then I've got folks thinking I'm nuts. I'm used to that. I've owned and ran bass boats from my first 16' 8" Champion, up to a 21 footers. Whatever. The boat gets you there, yes. But I never had one catch a bass.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 27, 2021, 10:00:27 PM
I put the boat on the water today as a Jon boat, and not a "Tiny Bass Boat" as I ran out of time with inclement weather approaching and I wanted to get a day in (1/2 day) for IBass.

This is the first Jon boat I've ever bought that had ZERO leaks. In fact, after having it off the trailer to clean a bunch of crusties off of the bottom of it, I'd say it's the nicest Jon boat I've had by far. Zero dents and just a very few scratches, even on the bottom. I'm tickled.

No, it's not a 20' glass go-fast boat. But you don't need that to catch bass Period.

(https://i.imgur.com/WRRWOx8.jpg)

Peace.

Dale

Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Oldfart9999 on April 28, 2021, 06:46:05 AM
 ~c~ ~c~ ~c~, nice one!!! I notice a pair of original trolling motors, oars, they don't use much battery power.
Rodney
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Donald Garner on April 28, 2021, 09:40:22 AM
Nice catch there and tks for sharing the picture with us.   Oars what are they used for  :-\ lo
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 28, 2021, 10:10:01 AM
The oars were a contingency deal. I haven't used that trolling motor in two years and wanted to be sure of it. I even had a spare in the truck. And THIRTY-FIVE mph wind. I don't like to get caught not prepared. I went to FISH, dammit.

The oars never got used, and will stay behind from now on. I actually bought them last fall for my OTHER Jon boat, to be used for trapping in a local creek. Never got to use them. Sigh.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Donald Garner on April 28, 2021, 06:38:13 PM
Although I have ( 2 ) trolling motors on my jon boat I still have a long paddle just in case  ;)
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on April 28, 2021, 07:59:11 PM
I tell you one thing for sure- this li'l boat is a pure-D PLEASURE to pull down the road. Wow.

Backing the thing is a little different. I've used nothing but my mirrors forever. You can't find this dinghy in a mirror. Man, looking over my shoulder HURTS. Oh well.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Princeton_Man on May 03, 2021, 09:54:39 AM
I tell you one thing for sure- this li'l boat is a pure-D PLEASURE to pull down the road. Wow.

Backing the thing is a little different. I've used nothing but my mirrors forever. You can't find this dinghy in a mirror. Man, looking over my shoulder HURTS. Oh well.

Dale
A buddy of mine installed a fiberglass rods on both back corners of his trailer, so that he could see where it was.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/5ba5466ae90c554d7a7ace430f3aa50c.jpg)
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Bud Kennedy on May 03, 2021, 10:22:52 AM
I can see my rear corners just fine.  Well.....At least out of my only working eye.  It seems to help but I don't back very well anyway.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/OpKMEl.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poOpKMElj)
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: Donald Garner on May 03, 2021, 10:06:55 PM
I have PVC Guide Posts with lights on my G3 1548 Alwed Jon Boat Trailer.  They help me backing etc.  I use the mirrors when backing.

G3 1548 Alwed Jon Boat with Guide Posts
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/w9zQ7h.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pow9zQ7hj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/9bPqF1.png) (https://imageshack.com/i/pm9bPqF1p)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/vImxdG.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmvImxdGj)

I bought these at Academy Sports.  They came in a kit.
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: D.W. Verts on May 03, 2021, 10:37:22 PM
Man, that's a purty Ranger.

Man, that's a purty G3.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now
Post by: FishaHallic on May 04, 2021, 07:53:57 PM
I can see my rear corners just fine.  Well.....At least out of my only working eye.  It seems to help but I don't back very well anyway.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/OpKMEl.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poOpKMElj)

Sweet looking ride Bud.
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on July 22, 2021, 11:10:36 PM
So I finally did some work to my Jon boat, and I'm glad to say it's well on its way to being a tiny bass boat, with a new deck. This is just a mock up- I took it out today for a couple of hours to identify any issues, and there were very few. My first try seems very solid, although I saw things that I would have done differently, of course.

The thing fished pretty darn good. It's so much better being even slightly elevated above the water, instead of standing two or three inches BELOW it.

I'm going to move the trolling motor pedal forward some, and will put a recessed tray in. This dang elevated pedal sucks. Remember back in the day?

When I'm satisfied I'll be tearing it all back apart (about 23 screws) and then I'll paint everything again, run a bunch of wire for everything, install lights, install the 7" Garmin, build a more permanent trolling motor mount base, and install the SeaDek. That may be the hardest part not to mention that the white deck was COOL today.

All in all I was pleasantly surprised. There were no real issues that I hadn't already known was going to happen.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Donald Garner on July 23, 2021, 11:52:20 AM
Tks for the update on your boat.  Can't wait to see the pictures.
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: coldfront on July 23, 2021, 12:19:10 PM
welcome to my world
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on July 23, 2021, 03:11:38 PM
Well Donald, I thought I posted one...

(https://i.imgur.com/RPNsSQc.jpg)

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Oldfart9999 on July 24, 2021, 07:56:46 AM
Making progress Dale, making progress. Looking like a fishing machine.
Rodney
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: topdsm0138 on July 24, 2021, 08:08:54 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Capt. BassinLou on July 24, 2021, 10:04:46 AM
Well Donald, I thought I posted one...

(https://i.imgur.com/RPNsSQc.jpg)

Dale
That boat looks great to fish my spot I call the Marshlands, minus the outboard though.
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Princeton_Man on July 24, 2021, 03:48:32 PM
Dale, are any of those deck sections hinged for storage?
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on July 24, 2021, 04:25:05 PM
Yessir, the whole middle, 36" long by 18" wide. It' one of the things I would do different. I may STILL do it different. I thing that two smaller lids on each side (like rod lockers) would give me the same (better) access, and allow me a stronger center section, with extra room for a pedestal/butt seat. I never use a butt seat, but it IS a tiny BASS BOAT. We'll see. Luckily, 5/8" plywood is cheap.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Donald Garner on July 24, 2021, 06:18:44 PM
Dale, Tks for posting the picture of your boat.  I like it.  Simple and fishable  ;)
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Wizard on July 24, 2021, 06:53:37 PM
Looking good, Dale.  Looks like a 14 foot. boat. My first fiberglass boat was a 14 ft. Star tri-hull.  I only weighed 185 and it was very tight moving around. Forrest let me have a Ranger but I used the Star as a crappie boat on LOZ for years. I'd fish with you in that boat.

Wizard
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on July 24, 2021, 10:53:55 PM
Okay Wizard, so this fall, after the crazies are gone, I put a fishing seat in the back, put in at Shawnee Bend, and come across to pick you up. The challenge- two rods each. Five lures total. And we stay within a mile of the Lodge. What do you think?

I think we barely leave your cove, except maybe fish the reef.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Wizard on July 25, 2021, 02:37:43 PM
I was thinking smaller water like the Mineral Fork, Big or Little Piney near I-44; St. Maries on State 50; Meramec, Courtois Creek or Bourbois near Union and Steelville. Mo. All are good to great SM waters. Heck, even one of your weed and water flea infested ponds with just a Moss Boss and Silver Minner.

Wizard
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Blacknredflake on September 05, 2021, 10:50:01 PM
Hows she lookin these days?

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Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: D.W. Verts on September 06, 2021, 02:30:44 PM
No change- when I have time I'm fishin'. I haven't even put the graph on it yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Qeyo3F8xw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Qeyo3F8xw)

I did a video on it when I started my YouTube channel, and I'm working on another right now. Not a "how-to" deal, just a few facts and such. I'll spend a couple of days finishing her out this fall, in cooler times.

Dale
Title: Re: I Are One Now- SMALL UPDATE
Post by: Blacknredflake on September 06, 2021, 02:34:54 PM
Oh ok cool. Will check it out!

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