Braid Overlap

-Joe- · July 08, 2008, 09:28:15 PM

Two of my reels are spooled with Power Pro 30lb. One is a Daiwa Viento I use for wormin' and the other is my Quantum TE PT that is set up for crankbait. The Daiwa has no problems but the Quantum has a bad problem with line overlapping on the reel which everyone knows what problems that creates. Any ideas why one does good and the other overlaps?

Thanks,
Joe

ss454 · July 08, 2008, 09:43:09 PM

Quote from: Ranger Joe on July 08, 2008, 09:28:15 PM
Two of my reels are spooled with Power Pro 30lb. One is a Daiwa Viento I use for wormin' and the other is my Quantum TE PT that is set up for crankbait. The Daiwa has no problems but the Quantum has a bad problem with line overlapping on the reel which everyone knows what problems that creates. Any ideas why one does good and the other overlaps?

Thanks,
Joe

It's odd that you've also seen the problems my dad has with his new Energy PT...it won't cast the 20lb Power Pro I loaded onto it nearly as well as my Revo S reels do. It overlaps and causes loops to kick out no matter what you do.

islandbass · July 09, 2008, 04:45:58 AM

That is one of the drawbacks of braid. The thinner the diameter, the less manageable it can become on casting reels for the less experience. The simplest solution is to step up to at least 40# braid. I use 30# and don't have issues, but I know that some do, and it seems that the problems of "line dig" and looping occur with diminishing frequency the thicker the braid gets.

Baron49 · July 09, 2008, 08:54:41 AM

I agree, I have to use at least 30 lb Power Pro on my Quantum PT's, but have successfully gone down to 15 lb Power pro on my Revo's with no problem what so ever. Must be the way the line is winding back on the reels?

islandbass · July 09, 2008, 09:45:01 AM

Quote from: baron49 on July 09, 2008, 08:54:41 AM
I agree, I have to use at least 30 lb Power Pro on my Quantum PT's, but have successfully gone down to 15 lb Power pro on my Revo's with no problem what so ever. Must be the way the line is winding back on the reels?

Wow, Hat's off! You are the man if you can cast 15# PPro or any other braid.

I'll drink to that.

ss454 · July 09, 2008, 05:01:33 PM

Quote from: baron49 on July 09, 2008, 08:54:41 AM
I agree, I have to use at least 30 lb Power Pro on my Quantum PT's, but have successfully gone down to 15 lb Power pro on my Revo's with no problem what so ever. Must be the way the line is winding back on the reels?

I also have thrown 15lb power pro on one of my Revo S reels with no problem. My dad is determined that the braid is the problem. It's taken me a long time to get him to use braid and now he's wanting to switch back to mono...he texas rigs a lot so if I could get him to stick with braid he'd see a difference in his bite detection as well as hookup ratio. Darn you Quantum!

Ron Fogelson · July 09, 2008, 05:13:02 PM

It is true that the larger you go in braid the easier it is to manage, at least for me.

However one thing I have got to do with braid is to wind it on tight. I'll load the reel and than walk out in the yard and tie of to something solid, normally it's the stop sign at the end of the road and hit the thumb bar and walk all the line off the reel. Once it is unspooled, I engage the reel and wind it back on the spool putting pressure on it with the rod. By loading the spool with a good bow in my rod I have found I do not have near the issues any more with braid that I had years ago.

Doesn't take long to do and I'll even repeat the process if I find the line is starting to coil up.

Anyway, before you give up on braid or that brand give it a try, the worse that can happen is your Dad still won't like it.

ss454 · July 09, 2008, 09:26:27 PM

I'll re-spool it and see if it helps but I generally spool my reels really tight to begin with. The 20lb PP I use for jigs on my Loomis digs in much less than the 50lb Stealth I use on my Cara frog rod and it's WAY thinner. The 50lb PP I have on my Amistad doesn't bite at all and it's also thinner than the Stealth. All 3 of these rods have Revo S reels on them too.

Baron49 · July 10, 2008, 10:05:24 AM

As stated I use Power Pro from 15 lb to 65 lb on my Revo's with no problem at all. I am not fond of Spiderwire after trying it for a couple years I replaced every reel that had Spiderwire with Power Pro and have had no problems since.

Pferox · July 15, 2008, 07:54:07 AM

The problem is caused by the size of the level wind guide, or slop in the actual level wind mechanism.
It is kind of inherent in some reel designs.
It is less noticeable in larger diameter lines because larger lines are more forgiving of the tolerance "slop".
These reels weren't designed to run braids, and they show it.
Sorry, but tight reeling and watching how it spools and correcting it as it goes on are basically the best way to fix the problem.
Or get your dad a Revo.