Caddo Lake Slot Limit Bull !!!!!!!!!

CouchTater · January 06, 2011, 02:12:21 PM

Quote from: cburge on January 05, 2011, 07:06:42 PM
If you think Caddo Lake is bad go fish Lake Pickwick, you have different slots from Tennessee ,Alabama , and Mississippi for largemouth then another different set of slots for smallmouth.

Same for Guntersville, even though there is only a small portion of the lake (mostly river) in Tennessee. However, the best Smallmouth fishing is in an area right on the state line. On the Tennessee portion here are the regs: Largemouth/Spotted Bass: 5 per day in combination, no length limit Smallmouth Bass: 1 per day, 18 inch minimum length limit.

In the Alabama portion of Guntersville the rules are as follows: It is illegal to possess any largemouth bass and smallmouth bass less than 15 inches in total length.The Creel limit is 10. Guntersville isn't known for big smallmouth but there are some areas of the lake that produce some big smallmouth, you have to becareful when in that area.

Mike Cork · January 06, 2011, 03:14:47 PM

It definitely is an issue and it's been this way since I got here back in 90' Most tournaments use the Texas Slot just to keep everyone honest and out of trouble. Louisiana and Texas are supposed to be getting together and come up with an across the lake number but it didn't happen as far as I know.

Okay so I don't look like and idot or maybe make myself look like more of one.... I didn't realize this was two pages and posted after seeing the first post

So what I'm saying is just ignore me

DBrooke · January 06, 2011, 07:44:42 PM

Quote from: Mike Cork on January 06, 2011, 03:14:47 PM
It definitely is an issue and it's been this way since I got here back in 90' Most tournaments use the Texas Slot just to keep everyone honest and out of trouble. Louisiana and Texas are supposed to be getting together and come up with an across the lake number but it didn't happen as far as I know.

Okay so I don't look like and idot or maybe make myself look like more of one.... I didn't realize this was two pages and posted after seeing the first post So what I'm saying is just ignore me

Did someone say something

-Shawn- · January 07, 2011, 05:52:49 AM

Quote from: Jared LeBlue on January 06, 2011, 12:33:29 PM
Floridas don't fair well in Sabine or the Calcasieu. The water conditions in these rivers are hard on the fish. The average life span of a fish on the river is about three years. Of course there are always some exceptions. The point is the fish don't live long enough to grow big. That's why you can go to the rivers and catch 40 bass but only have 5 keepers. The fish just don't grow fast enough or live long enough to have a size limit on the place. Basically it serves no purpose. Stocking of Florida bass does not necessarily make a place an awesome fishery. Indian Creek is prime example. The place is loaded with Floridas but it is a far cry from a good fishery. The piney woods that surround the lake make the soil very acidic. This hurts the water quality in the lake which effects the food chain for the fish. There's all kind technical jargin that was explained to me about it but it simply just not a fertile lake and therefore not a great fishery.

I agree that Texas has some good things going on and obviously they are doing somethings right but for them it's all or nothing. They have a ton of lakes in Texas, many are good and many are not. If Texas had the majic plan then all the lakes would be good. Louisiana is a far cry from being good and I think there are things that can be done to improve some of our lakes but those things are going to be left up to the biologist that make the suggestions for those changes. I simply wish the two states would get together and do whats right for the fisheries and stop this back and forth war they having.

Jared, Most of the Lakes that were built from the Late 70's on in Texas are great. BUT that has more to do with what I said in another thread, They lake does much better if it is built from the ground up to be a fishery.

As far as rhe Sabine it is the same watershed as Toledo, the sabine flows right through, so the Micro nutrient make up has got to be simular. what Kills the Sabine is not hhaving enough Flow year round, Yes I know there is a minimum release , but water level fluctuations have a big negative impact on a fishery. Especially on the forage fish.

They used to Say the Brazos River itself would never be a Bass Fishery, But they have made some flow ajustments and now 10 yrs later there are alot of Bigger 5-8 lb fish in it.

The Slot is just a small part of fisheries management, but all of it has to be based on research and science. LA may have the best Fishery biologist in the world, But untill they can do there job without the politicians getting in the way, it isn't going to get any better.

Back to what you were originally saying about the 14" in minimum. That will help the fishery, I have seen it on a couple other lakes and giving the fish 3 more years to spawn before they are fried up will help the over all fishery.

coldfront · January 07, 2011, 08:35:09 AM

Quote from: -Shawn- on January 07, 2011, 05:52:49 AMThe Slot is just a small part of fisheries management, but all of it has to be based on research and science. LA may have the best Fishery biologist in the world, But untill they can do there job without the politicians getting in the way, it isn't going to get any better.

you have to respect the fisheries guys...knowing on one hand what would actually work...but on the other hand, having to follow the political winds...both 'our elected' officials as well as 'us anglers' ... a VERY diverse group with an even greater diversity of opinions on how it ought to be managed.

Hawgwild · January 07, 2011, 09:25:00 PM

That stinks Drrobertray and sorry to hear about your troubles out there...really takes the joy out of a day on the water...and dealing with a bunch of

too...

What bothers me about the whole deal between LA and TX is that there are no clear markers that I am aware of when you go from LA side of the Lake to the TX side and back...

I would think both states should be required to put up markers at least on the boat rows that clearly state you are leaving LA waters and entering TX waters with a brief rundown on slots and limits....and that goes for LA also...both ways....I sure there have been many, many folks stuck like this when they thought they were obeying the laws...

It's almost lake a trap. Consideration should be given to where you actually launched...TX side or LA side....

Also...beware of possession limits of most all species of fish...Think it's 10 bass on LA side and only 5 in TX. Perch...limits vary between the states and also they must be 10" long on TX side...

And then things are completely different on T. Bend...

BassBUFF · January 07, 2011, 10:30:58 PM

Don't the marker colors change when you go into TX?

Drrobertray · January 12, 2011, 12:45:58 PM

NO they do not have colors. ALL the markers are the same.